Guardian- 2 Deals Provisionally Agreed for Summer

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That may be true, but if the 'provisional deal' isn't with the club it may not be worth much. Everton were hard to negotiate with last summer and It'll be even tougher now.
"Provisional deal" normally means agreement reached with both player and club. It's only provisional because of the possibility of the player sustaining a long term injury between the agreement and the actual transfer, or some other unforeseen occurrence.
 
Suarez was nowhere near the player he is now and was serving a ban at the time Liverpool bought him - he was damaged goods. He is not the barometer for us to gauge ourselves against in ability to attract players.

Being Utd is not enough sadly. Would rvp have signed if saf hadn't been manager? Not a chance. No top player is going to want to come near moyes this summer unless we pay silly money. Everything surrounding him is negative. Having Moyes as manager next season is a risk - both in terms if performances but also our ability to get the right players.

As for Mata, i wouldn't be so sure moyes bought him. Everything about that deal had Woodward written all over it.
So you are saying you can't bring in players that can develop into top players for the club. United has been great like that over the years, especially with young players. I am not using it as a gauge, I'm saying it's possible to bring in players who are able to develop into top players. Some very good players move to clubs that are not in the Champions League.

Your second point, on first look is quite accurate but there are some players who are young and will see first team football at a big club as an exciting challenge. So United is still an attractive option for some. Don't get me wrong, I see the point about not wanting to play this football under Moyes but at the end of the day, you can't speak for everyone.
 
"Provisional deal" normally means agreement reached with both player and club. It's only provisional because of the possibility of the player sustaining a long term injury between the agreement and the actual transfer, or some other unforeseen occurrence.

And like I said in my original idea - if we have that kind of deal for two players, it's NOT with Everton. They wouldn't agree anything with us in March, no way.
 
So you are saying you can't bring in players that can develop into top players for the club. United has been great like that over the years, especially with young players. I am not using it as a gauge, I'm saying it's possible to bring in players who are able to develop into top players. Some very good players move to clubs that are not in the Champions League.

Your second point, on first look is quite accurate but there are some players who are young and will see first team football at a big club as an exciting challenge. So United is still an attractive option for some. Don't get me wrong, I see the point about not wanting to play this football under Moyes but at the end of the day, you can't speak for everyone.

The problem is our squad is in need of quality right now - not potential. Something moyes understands. Fully agree we can attract potential but its not our priority right now.

My problem is we wont get the top players with the current manager. So, do you persist knowing you wont get them and that every footballing sign you've seen all season suggests hes the wrong man?
 
The problem is our squad is in need of quality right now - not potential. Something moyes understands. Fully agree we can attract potential but its not our priority right now.

My problem is we wont get the top players with the current manager. So, do you persist knowing you wont get them and that every footballing sign you've seen all season suggests hes the wrong man?
It's a balancing act. If we get the chance to sign one of the best young players in the world, are you going to knock it back because he won't help us win the title next season?

I understand where you are coming from in you point but every signing needs to be looked at differently. I agree we need quality now and that is of such importance but that shouldn't stop the long term vision of the club.
 
And like I said in my original idea - if we have that kind of deal for two players, it's NOT with Everton. They wouldn't agree anything with us in March, no way.

Indeed.

We are now 6 points ahead with a game in hand and a point ahead of Spurs with a game in hand. The onus is on us now to keep picking up those points and we will finish 5th at least. We will have European football which these players would be looking for and wanting to compete in. United won't offer that next year. Also with us they have a chance to build something new, fresh, and exciting. There are just so many positives to staying with us over United right now IMO.
 
Indeed.

We are now 6 points ahead with a game in hand and a point ahead of Spurs with a game in hand. The onus is on us now to keep picking up those points and we will finish 5th at least. We will have European football which these players would be looking for and wanting to compete in. United won't offer that next year. Also with us they have a chance to build something new, fresh, and exciting. There are just so many positives to staying with us over United right now IMO.

Three of your better players won't be there more than likely in Lukaku, Delefeou and Barry.
 
It's a balancing act. If we get the chance to sign one of the best young players in the world, are you going to knock it back because he won't help us win the title next season?

I understand where you are coming from in you point but every signing needs to be looked at differently. I agree we need quality now and that is of such importance but that shouldn't stop the long term vision of the club.

I totally agree but it doesn't seem to be what moyes is thinking. Hes looking at the top players and im afraid its a waste of time. They will not come. Hes associated with the failure of Utd and i cannot see him escaping that
 
Barry is free agent in summer? I'd rather have him than Fellaini.
 
Barry is free agent in summer? I'd rather have him than Fellaini.

Told you guys summer last, he is fantastic and would do a great job for us. But he should replace Carrick.
 
I think with Chelsea's willingness to sell Lukaku and our chances of selling RVP and Hernandez, it could be worth a little bid.
 
Indeed.

We are now 6 points ahead with a game in hand and a point ahead of Spurs with a game in hand. The onus is on us now to keep picking up those points and we will finish 5th at least. We will have European football which these players would be looking for and wanting to compete in. United won't offer that next year. Also with us they have a chance to build something new, fresh, and exciting. There are just so many positives to staying with us over United right now IMO.
I agree your current players are unlikely to leave, but the attraction of United will always be greater than Everton for players outside the club. You're a great side to watch but you will never have the funds to sign ready made top players, two of your best players won't be there next season and I can't see you sustaining this sort of season with European football too. Wouldn't put any money on keeping the likes of Barkley beyond a season or two, it won't just be United interested.
 
It will be sad if Martinez takes Everton to the Champions League in his first season and Moyes takes us out of Europe altogether.
 
Mike Keegan from MEN tweeted that a club source said that this story is complete bollocks, no deals already in place.
 
Mike Keegan from MEN tweeted that a club source said that this story is complete bollocks, no deals already in place.
Of course no deals are in place, it's a rumour but the club would have a few handshakes in place that will be dependant on where we finish and what we can offer next season.
 
Mike Keegan from MEN tweeted that a club source said that this story is complete bollocks, no deals already in place.
'Provisionally agreed' means no official deal is in place. It's just mutual agreement by word that the player(s) will sign for United.
 
I'm normally a transfer muppet but right now I couldn't care less about new players, the most important thing is to remove that cancer Moyes.
 
'Provisionally agreed' means no official deal is in place. It's just mutual agreement by word that the player(s) will sign for United.
Ed Woodward has the face of a man who trades in pinky promises.
 
It doesnt matter who we get in if the football and tactics are shit. Look at Mata for an example of this.
 
'Provisionally agreed' means no official deal is in place. It's just mutual agreement by word that the player(s) will sign for United.
I'm aware of that. Shooting the messenger a bit here, his tweet is as follows:

@mikekeeganmen: Spoke to someone well-placed at #mufc tonight. Adamant no deals signed for new players and no decision on next kit manufacturer yet.

Clearly referring to this story regardless of the wording. 'Adamant' suggests it's complete bollocks, wouldn't be the first time Daniel Taylor pretended he knew what was going on at United.
 
Liverpool being linked with Ander Herrera today. He'd be absolutely excellent for them, which would just rub our noses in it even more.
 
Liverpool being linked with Ander Herrera today. He'd be absolutely excellent for them, which would just rub our noses in it even more.
They cannot afford his release clause.
 
I agree your current players are unlikely to leave, but the attraction of United will always be greater than Everton for players outside the club. You're a great side to watch but you will never have the funds to sign ready made top players, two of your best players won't be there next season and I can't see you sustaining this sort of season with European football too. Wouldn't put any money on keeping the likes of Barkley beyond a season or two, it won't just be United interested.

We will have more funds next season considering the new TV Money, we are on course for 5th or higher, and European money would help too (Hypothetical but i'm hopeful of the latter two). I'd wager Barry being here next season than not, Deulofeu has been good but he'd be replaceable if he doesn't stay another year (Says he wants to go back to Barca and try to get a first team spot, don't blame him). Lukaku has been a great goalscorer and we have found it hard to get a striker who will consistently do that - i expect we will try to get a big striker (if the rumours of rifts between Lukaku and Mourinho are true we might try a cheeky bid) and then possibly loan another ala Traore. I hate the word 'project' but the foundations are here to establish one in my opinion.
 
Well that's a bit stupid if there isn't any. It won't calm anyone down then.

As long as they don't start the propaganda machine of saying how we're after the world's best. Then sign Fellaini.
 
Liverpool being linked with Ander Herrera today. He'd be absolutely excellent for them, which would just rub our noses in it even more.

Decent player but he's no Fellaini! Can you see Ander winning headers and elbowing players?
 
I don't think its Barkley, just don't, you hear the general concensus coming out of Evertont that he wasn't Moyes biggest fan, and his interviews over this season may back that up, besides which hes more a no.10 than an authodox midfielder, I don't think we need another square peg for a round hole in the side.

I'd guess its the Sporting Lisbon guy, whom I've never seen one second of and someone else.
 
Just judging from the reports, I think it's Luke Shaw and William Carvalho.
 
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