You need to give them something to vote for.
I dislike this line of thinking. Not everyone is tribal and you shouldn’t be able to say time for “change”, we’re going to do everything the old lot did.I dislike this line of thinking. The last 14 years have been abysmal, yeah labour are uninspiring but surely getting rid of the Tory's should be more than enough motivation for people to go and vote.
Seems mad to me that people would ever choose to not vote, but especially now.
I'd say it was mad that you've determined vibes override policies that'll be impacting people's lives for the next five years.I dislike this line of thinking. The last 14 years have been abysmal, yeah labour are uninspiring but surely getting rid of the Tory's should be more than enough motivation for people to go and vote.
Seems mad to me that people would ever choose to not vote, but especially now.
Nowt to vote for other than a different pile of sh*t in a lot of peoples view. As thrilled as anyone the Tories have gone but can’t muster the same excitement over the incoming lot.Staggering that after 14 years of shit people still don’t vote
You laughed when I suggested Labour would get 12m votes on a 70% turnout. I humbly apologise.I'd say it was mad that you've determined vibes override policies that'll be impacting people's lives for the next five years.
Surely Starmer will see he has gained feck all from the Tories and it’s time to attract the left with sensible socialist policies which actually improve people’s lives?On the face of it, amazing. And usually I try to be optimistic. The headline figure of today is getting the scum out and that's done. Some big twats gone.
But the labour vote share has barely increased (approx 2%), as Starmer has alienated big portions of his base. He will doubtless still see this as a massive endorsement of his tactics and manifesto.
The lib dems have gained about 50 seats on less than a 1% increase in vote share. 1 in every 7 votes to reform.
A quarter of all votes gone to Reform, Green and independents, winning exactly 2% of seats (though a few still waiting to be declared). Farce.
On the other hand I guess, Green Party with a big increase in both vote share and seats.
Paying any attention to the sizeable Green vote and the four defeats to independents, and the reasons for both, would be nice.Surely Starmer will see he has gained feck all from the Tories and it’s time to attract the left with sensible socialist policies which actually improve people’s lives?
No worries. A lot of people who somehow do this for a living had bizarrely decided turnout was going to suddenly jump up based on nothing.You laughed when I suggested Labour would get 12m votes on a 70% turnout. I humbly apologise.
Sky have a Labour vote share of 34% on a 60% turnout. There are roughly 47 million registered voters. I make that around 9.5 million votes.
- David Cameron's seat of Witney to the Lib Dems
- Theresa May's seat of Maidenhead to the Lib Dems
- Boris Johnson's seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip to Labour
- Liz Truss's seat of South West Norfolk to Labour
Another victim of Starmer's crazy stance on Gaza.Jesus, Jonathan Ashworth gone for Labour. Never quite worked out if I liked him but he's definitely a name at least.
It's a great sight to see, but worth remembering only Truss was actually standing in this election.
- David Cameron's seat of Witney to the Lib Dems
- Theresa May's seat of Maidenhead to the Lib Dems
- Boris Johnson's seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip to Labour
- Liz Truss's seat of South West Norfolk to Labour
Surely Starmer will see he has gained feck all from the Tories and it’s time to attract the left with sensible socialist policies which actually improve people’s lives?
Liz Truss flouncing off the stage without giving a speech as the outgoing MP....stay classy Liz!
Looks like Labour are going to slightly exceed the number of seats the exit poll predicted, which is great news to wake up to.
I'm astonished that over 6 and a half million people still voted Tories and only around 9 and half million voted Labour. Madness. I actually find it depressing, because the worst performing Conservative party in my adult lifetime, and one of if the best performing Labour parties, and the vote split is still only a 2:3 ratio. And over 4m votes for Reform. A huge % of the population are fecking morons.
Not unless those people on the left are going to pay him the sort of money Blackrock will be offering.Surely Starmer will see he has gained feck all from the Tories and it’s time to attract the left with sensible socialist policies which actually improve people’s lives?
I dislike this line of thinking. The last 14 years have been abysmal, yeah labour are uninspiring but surely getting rid of the Tory's should be more than enough motivation for people to go and vote.
Seems mad to me that people would ever choose to not vote, but especially now.
If reform would not exist, a big portin of these 4 million would have gone to tory ending neck to neck with labour
Shows exactly why they stood down Brexit Party candidates in Tory seats back in 2019.If reform would not exist, a big portin of these 4 million would have gone to tory ending neck to neck with labour
Greens 4 - Reform 4
Guess which party will get weekly interview spots?
A large number of people are not politically engaged enough to think like that. They vote on fear or hope or not at all.
If reform would not exist, a big portin of these 4 million would have gone to tory ending neck to neck with labour
Looks like Labour are going to slightly exceed the number of seats the exit poll predicted, which is great news to wake up to.
I'm astonished that over 6 and a half million people still voted Tories and only around 9 and half million voted Labour. Madness. I actually find it depressing, because the worst performing Conservative party in my adult lifetime, and one of if the best performing Labour parties, and the vote split is still only a 2:3 ratio. And over 4m votes for Reform. A huge % of the population are fecking morons.
To be fair while it will be annoying and the seats look like they will be the same, there are a few major differences:
-double the vote share
-Farage
-nobody realistically thinks labour are (at present) going to be moved left by the greens. Whereas we are all (including Tory MPs) openly talking about how Reform may be lurching the Tories right and may potentially be subsumed by the tories entirely. And then we're in very worrying territory.
Though just switched on the sky news coverage and not even a mention of Green...but did mention the independents. fecks sake.
Staggering that after 14 years of shit people still don’t vote
Whilst the short term result has been good news for Labour - when the dust settles it’s hardly been the success story that’s being made out
despite one of the worst governments in memory, they’ve barely added any votes (1% more share) Labour can count themselves very lucky that Farage declared when he did. If he had stayed in the wilderness, we’d be looking at a hung parliament.
How Starmer has managed to barely attract the electorate given what’s happened speaks volumes really.
Labour will hope Farage stays around to split the right vote, but when he goes, Labour are back to being the opposition.
And those same people will be the first to complain if things don't turn out as they think they should have. I have no time for these time wasters.
