Gary Neville

JPRouve said:
It's worse than that, it's about the idea that fans expect to be entertained, that it's part of the club identity. In other word he was talking about Sir Matt Busby idea that United has a duty to entertain the fans.
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Makes sense too.

It certainly wasn’t about money or commercial aspects, which as you say, makes the criticism more the stranger.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
As I say, Klopp clearly had no problem with cheesy/corny as feck football clubs and owners, else he wouldn’t have joined the ones who backed those fecking Suarez t-shirts.
He was likely swayed by the moneyball sales pitch, and well, the fact that he was, you know, jobless.

It’s all a load of bollocks.
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Why didn't we just wait another year for him rather than press the trigger on LVG
 
I don't usually mind Neville's criticism of the club as I've always felt it was somewhat level headed, his rants in recent weeks though have been pure toxic and really doesn't help - basically warning ETH not to take the job so we're then left with a second choice manager which in theory means we'll be worse off, he's reached CAF levels of self hate
 
charlenefan said:
I don't usually mind Neville's criticism of the club as I've always felt it was somewhat level headed, his rants in recent weeks though have been pure toxic and really doesn't help - basically warning ETH not to take the job so we're then left with a second choice manager which in theory means we'll be worse off, he's reached CAF levels of self hate
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Yeah he's proper driving the Pochettino stuff
 
croadyman said:
Why didn't we just wait another year for him rather than press the trigger on LVG
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Klopp had a contract until 2018, there was nothing to wait for. He rejected everyone that summer and only left the following season because the season went pretty poorly and he tought that he reached the end of a cycle.
 
croadyman said:
Why didn't we just wait another year for him rather than press the trigger on LVG
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He was supposed to stay at Dortmund till 2018, but their horrendous start to the season made the board and Klopp have talks, in which they both unanimously agreed that they’d terminate the contract at the end of that season.
So Klopp, in never wanting to break contract, no doubt told United and Real that he wasn’t going to be available for a few years.
Liverpool were extremely fortunate, and the rest is history.
 
JPRouve said:
Klopp had a contract until 2018, there was nothing to wait for. He rejected everyone that summer and only left the following season because the season went pretty poorly and he tought that he reached the end of a cycle.
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God I hate how the scousers timing is so bloody good, they always seem to face teams missing a couple of key players
 
I'm derailing the thread a bit here but there is no guarantee that klopp would have turned the ship around, we had terrible players even then and I don't think klopp would have done well under such a high pressure.

Nice to think about though.
 
Klopp arrived mid season in October at Liverpool too - so they didn’t sack Rodgers after losing 6-1 to Stoke and finishing 6th with Klopp available. Had Rodgers started that season well we may very well have been the ones who ended up with him as by the end of December LVGs time was clearly up. Definitely one of those what if moments.
 
Mickeza said:
Klopp arrived mid season in October at Liverpool too - so they didn’t sack Rodgers after losing 6-1 to Stoke and finishing 6th with Klopp available. Had Rodgers started that season well we may very well have been the ones who ended up with him as by the end of December LVGs time was clearly up. Definitely one of those what if moments.
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Damn you Brendan for starting that season so crap and handing him to them lot
 
Mickeza said:
I honestly don’t get how all sense of perspective and relativity just goes to the wall with United. Any time we don’t win it’s a moral outrage and everything and everyone at the club is broken. We’ve finished 2nd twice in the last 4 years. We’ve been to umpteen semi-finals and a final in that time. We’ve finished ahead of high spending Chelsea 3 of the last 4 years. Was anyone bleating in the media about why would Tuchel want the Chelsea job when he took them over in 8th? Leaks everywhere about how they disliked Lampard and his methods - was there a meltdown every day on every media platform telling them all to get out of the club? The fans even had a little protest in support of Lampard. What about klopp at Liverpool? Had achieved feck all for decades. They were 9th I think, 6th the previous season and had lost to stoke 6-1 on the final game. Total disarray. Was the media actively telling anyone linked not to join? It’s been a bad season. Other clubs have bad seasons. I saw Gullit say it’s a shit job and the big problem ETH will have is that the former players like Neville, Ferdinand and Scholes are constantly on TV saying how shit everything is and you’ll get zero time before the pressure builds - and he’s right. I’m sick of listening to it all. You get more time and more money than any other club outside of City and the project of restoring a huge club to former glory. And if it goes wrong nobody blames you. It’s a dream job.
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Great post. No matter how bad it gets, it is still a great job and any available top manager would take it in a heartbeat, and while our football structure is rubbish at the moment, historically we're very supportive of our managers and never interfere. If we offer ETH the job he'll take it, I have no doubt about that.
 
croadyman said:
Yeah he's proper driving the Pochettino stuff
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Exactly. This is what he is trying to do now. If you cannot change the minds of the club, then get ETH to change his mind. I cannot stand the guy anymore. Little toad he is.
 
united_99 said:
Bloody hell, if ETH listens to Neville or VdB and because of this decides against United then he wouldn’t really be the ideal candidate anyway.
He is not making his decision based on the opinion of a pundit or a player who can’t get a game for Everton.
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Not a single person in here has made that argument.
 
Mickeza said:
I honestly don’t get how all sense of perspective and relativity just goes to the wall with United. Any time we don’t win it’s a moral outrage and everything and everyone at the club is broken. We’ve finished 2nd twice in the last 4 years. We’ve been to umpteen semi-finals and a final in that time. We’ve finished ahead of high spending Chelsea 3 of the last 4 years. Was anyone bleating in the media about why would Tuchel want the Chelsea job when he took them over in 8th? Leaks everywhere about how they disliked Lampard and his methods - was there a meltdown every day on every media platform telling them all to get out of the club? The fans even had a little protest in support of Lampard. What about klopp at Liverpool? Had achieved feck all for decades. They were 9th I think, 6th the previous season and had lost to stoke 6-1 on the final game. Total disarray. Was the media actively telling anyone linked not to join? It’s been a bad season. Other clubs have bad seasons. I saw Gullit say it’s a shit job and the big problem ETH will have is that the former players like Neville, Ferdinand and Scholes are constantly on TV saying how shit everything is and you’ll get zero time before the pressure builds - and he’s right. I’m sick of listening to it all. You get more time and more money than any other club outside of City and the project of restoring a huge club to former glory. And if it goes wrong nobody blames you. It’s a dream job.
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This part bothers me a lot, they create a circus around the club and player and then complain that there is a circus around the club and players. This is particularly true for Neville and I don't know if he realizes that from a media standpoint he creates the bad mood and tension that affects the fanbase and the club in general.
 
Red the Bear said:
I'm derailing the thread a bit here but there is no guarantee that klopp would have turned the ship around, we had terrible players even then and I don't think klopp would have done well under such a high pressure.

Nice to think about though.
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Yes, because Liverpool were in such great shape when Klopp took them over.

Some people just post drivel without even thinking about it.
 
I’m assuming Poch must have taken Gary out for a great meal and night out once, hence his considerable mancrush for him to be United manager. :wenger:
 
horsechoker said:
If he jizzes over City, Liverpool and Chelsea on live TV, just imagine how much of a wrong'un he is when the cameras aren't rolling.
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I think subconsciously or otherwise he's trying too hard to prove he's not a biased United fan.

He should just have done a Phil Thompson and nailed his colours to the mast from day one.
 
Cue Neville undermining ETH at every opportunity he gets.
 
The Corinthian said:
Cue Neville undermining ETH at every opportunity he gets.
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It will definitely happen. I remember how much stick Pep got when he came in because "his style won't work in the Prem" and he dropped Joe Hart. I recall every goal Bravo conceded being met with "How would Joe Hart have dealt with that". Same thing I see happening every time they pan to Rashford on the bench and we're not winning 3-0 in a game.
 
The Corinthian said:
Cue Neville undermining ETH at every opportunity he gets.
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Can’t believe they’re not using Rashford. The Manager is only Using this formation to keep him out of the side.

Wait, he actually did say this during the City game
 
My question concerns the title of this thread.
How many times can the same person be dead to you ??
 
If it’s true he wanted Pochettino, it’s obvious he thought he was the best choice for the club. I don’t believe for one minute this former United player and fan wants nothing more than the best for the club.

I hope ten Hag blows all his doubts away.
 
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