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Gary Neville
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What's the difference between going on a holiday and going on international duty for your country? Despite Rash looking a fool while he was there, I don't see a problem with it.
Don't think he wants United to actually be successful. They can cheer when United scores all they want, but these United legends' careers clearly benefit from turmoil around the club. Why else would you be sticking the boot into Rashford and Casemiro with false information that you could have easily checked beforehand? Gary knows that anything can be turned into an issue when it comes to United, and he uses it to his advantage. Not that Gary and Scholes whining is the reason for United being utter shit, but it really doesn't help.
Most of the posts today can be boiled down to people being angry that a football pundit offered an opinion during a podcast discussing football. It is as absurd as moaning at a streetsweeper for sweeping the streets, it is his job. Disagree with his comments all you like but getting mad simply because he dared to speak at all is just daft.
Who exactly is mad?
A wizard should know better!
There is some truth to this. I don't know what anyone really wants deep down, but United in disarray is a very good thing for engagement. "Influencers" and football channels benefit from it, so do traditional media outlets and people in their sphere like Gary Neville. We all do it. I don't really tune into post-match commentary of any type after a routine win but will do after an unexpected loss or terrible performance, or some big win against a rival.
Even stupid meme heavy accounts get so much more engagement when it is United-related and negative. It is crack for ABUs and obviously United fans will also engage with it one way or another.
Well I think they should have all stayed at home for their week off, feeling sorry for themselves and reflecting on their lives.
That would set them all up just perfectly to be in a positive frame of mind for the new manager.
That would set them all up just perfectly to be in a positive frame of mind for the new manager.
Do your research Gary. You have not only added fuel to the fire. You have made the fire itself. We don't need you sticking your beak in, telling lies and creating problems where there aren't any.
He's extremely holier than though for someone who if you stuck into the current 13th place United side. Would probably help them to be...13th, but just very slightly less shite.
If it's someone like Keane ranting off at least you can imagine them dragging the team and attitude up a level if they were part of it during their playing time.
Neville would be a fecking nightmare in this current United side I reckon. He'd be refusing to let his team mates give interviews due to the unfair criticism, blaming every defeat on VAR. Getting sent off for not being able to shut his mouth
Jesus how did they talk about Rashford going on a break for so long? Not a big deal.
His main problem as a pundit is he never entertains the idea he could be wrong.
Find him a mithering bastard with some of his views at times but he was a really good player and also a leader. If anything it's the opposite, we lack players of his type.
His main problem as a pundit is he never entertains the idea he could be wrong.
He was in a team full of leaders who also happened to be world class footballers. It's easy to be a leader when you don't actually have to do any leading.
and he was a really good player for about 4 years, and even at his peak if you stuck him in this current United side they wouldn't suddenly be shooting up the table.
He certainly isn't qualified to be mouthing off about what other players should or shouldn't be doing with their free time. Performances on the pitch sure but even then he can't stick to constructive criticism and invaeiably just whines like a drama child. I really can't see how that would translate to good leadership qualities.
I don't get the controversy about what he said. At the end, he does have a point in that if you play shit, being jet legged, flying for hours across the ocean might not be the very best idea. I guess if you have proper ambition and high standards, you realize the situation you're in and act accordingly. I think he's trying to point that out and again, there is not much wrong with that point of view
I agree. I think Neville is just looking out for the team. 12 hrs on a flight to Disney. And sitting court side with 12 hrs of flight time is not a good look.
I don't disagree with him in principle but he really did go on and on and really couldn't let it go . It should have amounted to: maybe it's not the smartest idea given the circumstances... and then move on.
I do wonder if Rashford plays really well the next few weeks if he will suggest that maybe the trip helped him to clear his mind and reset before starting work with a new coach.
He played up on 40 games a season for 12 years straight. To say he was really good for about 4 years is absolute bollocks.
The club is in crisis, Rashford is a senior player, a poster boy of the club and paid obscenely well.
Expecting him to forego one holiday to knuckle down with a new manager for a week or two instead isn't an outrageous thing to think.
Expecting him to forego one holiday to knuckle down with a new manager for a week or two instead isn't an outrageous thing to think.
Normally I ignore this thread, but thought it would be a good time to pop in and remind everyone what a fecking shit for brains twat Gary is.
Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. We are in an embarrassing state and would have been nice to have players put their heads down to turn it around. Yeah maybe people can disagree but that's his opinion and I think he tried to explain why he thought so.
Aside from that some of the things in this thread are just so ridiculous. This idea that he doesn't want United to be successful is so crazy and a bit pathetic honestly. He and others on the show come from an era where the standards at the club were insane and to watch the same club being in the gutter can't be easy.
Aside from that some of the things in this thread are just so ridiculous. This idea that he doesn't want United to be successful is so crazy and a bit pathetic honestly. He and others on the show come from an era where the standards at the club were insane and to watch the same club being in the gutter can't be easy.
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People diminishing ex United greats because they don’t like what they say in the media now seems to be a really annoying trend. He was a great player and the discourse around him is oddly led by himself being self effacing. Fergie wouldn’t have picked him if he wasn’t at the right level.
Neville's an idiot, regardless of your thoughts on Rashford. He knows people within the club, from top to bottom, as shown by his meetings with Ratcliffe over the new Stadium. If he was that concerned, he could have asked someone at the club about this. He was a great player who has sold himself out for his to be a bumbling idiot gimmick that he can hide behind when he fails miserably as a coach, chairman, hotel owner and everything else. "HUH HUH HUH HUH! I'm shite! Even though I played over 500 games and won the Champions League HUH HUH!" He's a mix of Karl Pilkington and some cnut off youtube.
When he went to Qatar for a big pay off after criticising the human rights, he became a sell out then. Nothing he says I can take seriously. And you can guarantee when Rashford leave United he'll be the first one to bitch about it and give Rashford a forum to bury the club for "hits."
When he went to Qatar for a big pay off after criticising the human rights, he became a sell out then. Nothing he says I can take seriously. And you can guarantee when Rashford leave United he'll be the first one to bitch about it and give Rashford a forum to bury the club for "hits."
Nothing wrong in the content of his criticism. He probably pushed the point for a few minutes longer than needed, but it was at the beginning in the pre show part.
People struggle with him because he’s on our screens for relatively a lot more time than others. No doubt if say a RvP was a pundit and show host for a similar volume, he’d get more criticism too.
People struggle with him because he’s on our screens for relatively a lot more time than others. No doubt if say a RvP was a pundit and show host for a similar volume, he’d get more criticism too.
This moaning is hilarious. He’s a pundit for goodness sakes. He’s doing punditry. Let him be a pundit.
He went a bit long because everyone else on the table was trying to egg him on acting like it's not a big deal. Saka often goes to the US on his days off to watch the NBA and do promotionnal stuff. But if he did it while we were dogshit and sitting 14th i'd be annoyed even though he's our best player. Rashford doing it is pretty stupid.
Neville is annoying and I dont listen to him. But here, he is right and as you point out, if Rashford plays on Sunday and has a shitty game, another shitstorm will come... And he needs to be smarter than that imo and be more professional
Especially when you had 2 shit seasons in a row, got kicked out of the England squad, and when you make headlines all the time already.
It is that kind of player attitude that has become a huge issue
Well yeah, you don't have to agree with everything he says or any of what he says. I think he can be very hard to listen to a lot of them time. I do think he makes a good point about Rashford taking that kind of trip over 2 or 3 days, especially given the timing of what's being going on at the club and the discourse about his performance levels. He just kept banging on about it for way too long.
But fecking hell, he was an excellent player for Utd, you don't play 500 or 600 games for Utd under SAF if you're not.
How often did you even watch Neville play? He was the best right back in the league for a number of years. Lets not pretend he was not a quality player just because you don't like his opinions.
Unless Rashford breached his contract, then all of the criticism is nothing but hogwash. Neville is a "high performance" twat who'd stretch before having a wank, he's seen and knows the kinds of thing his teammates got up to between games, let alone on holiday. He's there to talk, that's his job, but dedicating half a show to the noise generated by idiots on social media, many of whom have quite sinister motivations, should be beneath him. It isn't, he's a millionaire flogging Huel for fecks sake. He'd probably punch his mum in the face if it got him a few likes on LinkedIn.
You're making no sense. Neville didn't even imply Rashford breached his contract.
Yeah ignore the guy who's won 10 league titles criticising a player who's won't feck all, hasn't tried a jot in a couple of years and flashes his wealth constantly while saying he doesn't like attention.
He makes a lot of sense, because that's the point. This is a lengthy discussion about a complete non-issue. Nevilles rant would be understandable if Rashford had breached his contract, but he did nothing even coming close to that.
It's not a complete non issue - he had very valid points and even go caveated it's his right to do it.
He made it clear that its a poor impression, and I completely agree. Taking long flights for a matter of a few days so close to training under the first team coach whilst being chronically poor and having multiple issues of ill professionalism prior is not a good image. Like it or lump it.
You say "its his right to go where he wants who cares, he didnt break a contract" - that's right too. But his dedication and distraction is there for everyone to see. We're not mugs anymore - this is a guy who has form for turning up late for training or missing them all together because he wanted to go on a bender the night before.
With how he's traveling, I doubt jetlag would be that much of an issue. I find business class combats that well enough, I can sleep pretty damn easily in those conditions, and Rashford's going to be flying in an even better environment. This whole story really has been blown up to a mad level.
I can guarantee if Rashford hadn't gone, and it was just Casemiro, nobody would've been arsed in the slightest. Complete non story.
Also, if Rashford had just gone wearing normal clothes then again, a non story.
Also, if Rashford had just gone wearing normal clothes then again, a non story.
Exactly, its such a non issue.
Casemiro went too didn’t he? Or is it fine for him to go abroad when given time off because he’s won stuff and is playing well?