Gary Neville

I can’t understand you all complaining that he’s constantly reminding us how shite Utd currently are.
Nearly everybody on here is making the same sort of noises, every day.
In fairness, he does keep rubbing it in, but it’s not like he’s wrong !
His job is to comment on the game and give us some insight but instead he spent it talking shite and bringing up lies or irrelevant nonsense to fan the flames on united hate.
 
I can’t understand you all complaining that he’s constantly reminding us how shite Utd currently are.
Nearly everybody on here is making the same sort of noises, every day.
In fairness, he does keep rubbing it in, but it’s not like he’s wrong !

He's meant to be a pundit. If he wants to moan about United being shite instead of providing any punditry he can buy a ticket and sit in the stand or just sign up on here.

If he wants to be a highly paid pundit commentating on games for Sky he should try commentating or providing punditry on the game once in a while, rather than completely ignoring it to drone on about his insufferable agendas.

Its not even new for him. He used to pick on Arsenal in the same way to the point watching their games was hard to enjoy because Neville wouldn't fecking shut up about how shite they were, completely regardless of how they or the other team were playing or anything that was happening.

Or his other habit of getting a pre-conceived idea about a player or tactic not being right for a particular game, based on absolutely nothing whatsoever other than Gary Neville being an opinionate tit, and then spending the whole game going on about it even after he's been proven completely wrong and made to sound like an idiot.

He's the worst pundit on tv by a very wide margin for me.

I doubt its just United fans who find him insufferable either. My dad is a Chelsea fan and when we watch games at his sometimes he'll put the tv on mute and turn the radio on for commentary because he gets fed up with Neville. That's quite an extreme thing to do. He doesn't do it for any other commentator or pundit.

At the very least, at around 60 minutes of each game, Neville's mic needs to be cut off and a group of nurses escort him to his "ranting room" which is sound proofed to everyone outside and has loads of pictures of David Beckham on the walls to calm him down. There should also be a button on the remote you can press to give him an electric shock.
 
Or maybe just don't go on a holiday to a different timezone on one of the rare occasions a footballer gets to rest up in the middle of a hectic season?
What if this helps him? Did you think of that? Just because Neville said it's wrong doesn't make it so. Neville is very holier than thou these days, I bet he got up to some shit back in the day even though he comes across as a teachers pet.
 
Or maybe just don't go on a holiday to a different timezone on one of the rare occasions a footballer gets to rest up in the middle of a hectic season?
I don't think Neville was against going on holiday, he was against going to the other side of the world for a long weekend.

No doubt Rashford would have been criticised if he went to Dubai though.
 
I don't think Neville was against going on holiday, he was against going to the other side of the world for a long weekend.

No doubt Rashford would have been criticised if he went to Dubai though.
Anything he does gets criticised it seems. He could be donating to the poor in his time off and someone would be offended.
 
We can see why he was a failed manager.. It is an issue with alot of players that played under Fergie though...

They all think there is only one way to play and be successful
 
I think it's fair enough to question going to a -8 time zone for a trip away in the middle of the season when you're not playing particularly well.
 
The most Gary Neville opinion you'll read. You couldn't have imagined his opinion on this trivial news any better.

I'm so accustomed to the likes of Neville, Carragher and Keane that I feel I know which direction their views are on certain matters within the game now.

Their opinions are so tedious at this point.
 
I had a look, but couldn't see anything, but Rashford wasn't in Portland as far as I can work out. He was in New York, which isn't a 12hr flight and 8hr time difference which seems to be what his big issue was with.

Saying Casemiro was there too when he was in Florida and then latterly New York was bizarre also.

Just seems like he's getting really worked up about something that isn't fully true.
 
Neville getting worked up over something so utterly trivial is his kinda his thing.
Unfortunately its ,more often than not , about United.
 
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Anything he does gets criticised it seems. He could be donating to the poor in his time off and someone would be offended.

Wasn't he donating meals to poor kids and was criticized because he was too vocal about it?
 
I had a look, but couldn't see anything, but Rashford wasn't in Portland as far as I can work out. He was in New York, which isn't a 12hr flight and 8hr time difference which seems to be what his big issue was with.

Saying Casemiro was there too when he was in Florida and then latterly New York was bizarre also.

Just seems like he's getting really worked up about something that isn't fully true.

The time zone thing is silly when it's an international window. Unless someone believe that these two players have a special need for rest, there are several hundreds of footballers that were crossing the globe to join their national teams and then travel to at least one different country to play a game.

Now if either of them had health issues, I could understand but I don't think that it's the case.
 
I think there is a confusion over the Portland thing with the pictures that came out of Rashford training at Nike HQ with a Portland Timbers youngster. The pictures got published to an instagram page during the international break, but it took place in the summer.

The time zone or jet lag thing is a nonsense in their cases tbh, plenty of players have travelled long distances and will be back in training days later than Rashford and Casemiro.
 
G. Neville is doing Rashford a solid here, I doubt he even realises it, but it is a rare occasion where I will side with Marcus.
 
I think there is a confusion over the Portland thing with the pictures that came out of Rashford training at Nike HQ with a Portland Timbers youngster. The pictures got published to an instagram page during the international break, but it took place in the summer.

The time zone or jet lag thing is a nonsense in their cases tbh, plenty of players have travelled long distances and will be back in training days later than Rashford and Casemiro.
It would have taken Neville or his team 30 seconds to research this but it's always better to stick the boot in from his perspective. He's lucky Fergie isn't in charge anymore as he'd never stand for it.
 
The most Gary Neville opinion you'll read. You couldn't have imagined his opinion on this trivial news any better.

I'm so accustomed to the likes of Neville, Carragher and Keane that I feel I know which direction their views are on certain matters within the game now.

Their opinions are so tedious at this point.
I feel the same way. It's very rinse/repeat.

They have also perfected the art of selective outrage.
Wasn't he donating meals to poor kids and was criticized because he was too vocal about it?
Yep, he was criticised for publicising it too much (even though the whole point was that it needed to be publicised), for spinning it notably through his Twitter account, and then whenever he had a bad game, for not focusing enough on football. It was quite marvelous - on a topic that is evidently very close to his heart, and very genuine.
 
I think there is a confusion over the Portland thing with the pictures that came out of Rashford training at Nike HQ with a Portland Timbers youngster. The pictures got published to an instagram page during the international break, but it took place in the summer.

The time zone or jet lag thing is a nonsense in their cases tbh, plenty of players have travelled long distances and will be back in training days later than Rashford and Casemiro.

Because they had to.

Plenty of players chose to not travel to a different time zone, so they could rest/train in Manchester instead.
 
I don’t understand the need for Neville to try and create further issues for United. It’s pretty well accepted that being a footballer takes it out of you mentally as well as physically; a two week gap is plenty of time to recover physically from a trip to New York. If not, the club wouldn’t have authorised it.

Because they had to.

Plenty of players chose to not travel to a different time zone, so they could rest/train in Manchester instead.
He was in all of the training videos though. I’m not sure how you’ve decided that no other players went away? Professional footballers are well used to sleeping weird schedules. I can’t imagine that it made much difference.
 
That's right. They were saying he should stick to football. I literally remember Neville coming out with that phrase in regards to Rashford, I think it was on MNF.

The crazy thing about this and it's in line with the holiday "scandal" is that many seem to think that athletes aren't normal people that have other interests outside of playing Football every weekends. People think that it's normal to be outraged whenever they share their thoughts about politics or have any hobbies that isn't linked to their sport. It's amazing how easily we dehumanize them.

As long as they don't have destructive behaviors and don't put themselves in highly dangerous situations, people should mind their own business. Also Neville's generation were constantly clubbing and weren't running on water, it's not a secret.
 
The crazy thing about this and it's in line with the holiday "scandal" is that many seem to think that athletes aren't normal people that have other interests outside of playing Football every weekends. People think that it's normal to be outraged whenever they share their thoughts about politics or have any hobbies that isn't linked to their sport. It's amazing how easily we dehumanize them.

As long as they don't have destructive behaviors and don't put themselves in highly dangerous situations, people should mind their own business. Also Neville's generation were constantly clubbing and weren't running on water, it's not a secret.
Neville did make a point about they were focusing too much on Rashford and he rather questioned Casemiro if it was a good idea for his body to essentially force an international break with the long flights and jet lag when he might take a while to recover from that.

It's a poor decision from a PR pov. If Rashford is shit the next few games this will be brought up again and again. Maybe he doesn't care. Most of them don't.
 
Because they had to.

Plenty of players chose to not travel to a different time zone, so they could rest/train in Manchester instead.

The players that were not involved with internationals were given a week off. This is the last time off for a long while for players to have a small break with their families.

They were both back by Sunday ready for a Monday morning training session. They can be jet lagged and what not but the game isnt until Sunday, I am sure you can get over jet lag in 7 days.
 
The players that were not involved with internationals were given a week off. This is the last time off for a long while for players to have a small break with their families.

They were both back by Sunday ready for a Monday morning training session. They can be jet lagged and what not but the game isnt until Sunday, I am sure you can get over jet lag in 7 days.

He’ll survive, I’m sure. I’m not suggesting he’ll be falling asleep at half time. And chances are it won’t have much affect at all. In the context of everything else going on though - new manager, best paid player, underperforming for a long time, previous criticism for poorly timed travel abroad etc etc - it’s at best, a slightly unwise decision which will invite criticism. And for someone with a history of unwise decisions it’s really not a good look.
 
Neville did make a point about they were focusing too much on Rashford and he rather questioned Casemiro if it was a good idea for his body to essentially force an international break with the long flights and jet lag when he might take a while to recover from that.

It's a poor decision from a PR pov. If Rashford is shit the next few games this will be brought up again and again. Maybe he doesn't care. Most of them don't.

It's a moronic point for both, first because we are talking about a 5 hour time zone difference which if you actually suffer from jet lag would require 5 days at most to recover fully. And that's assuming that he is actually jet lagged but in that case we should also mention the mental health benefits of enjoying himself with his family in a different places that he enjoys.
 
He’ll survive, I’m sure. I’m not suggesting he’ll be falling asleep at half time. And chances are it won’t have much affect at all. In the context of everything else going on though - new manager, best paid player, underperforming for a long time, previous criticism for poorly timed travel abroad etc etc - it’s at best, a slightly unwise decision which will invite criticism. And for someone with a history of unwise decisions it’s really not a good look.

I disagree. You should be allowed to enjoy your money and time off. The other times, Belfast and the like are different as they were not sanctioned, this was when players are given time off.

Its only because Manutd players make the headline, otherwise its not an issue is it?

New manager started on Monday, Rashford and Casemiro were back by Monday for the training session.

Are you suggesting underperforming players are not allowed to have a personal life then?
 
It's a moronic point for both, first because we are talking about a 5 hour time zone difference which if you actually suffer from jet lag would require 5 days at most to recover fully. And that's assuming that he is actually jet lagged but in that case we should also mention the mental health benefits of enjoying himself with his family in a different places that he enjoys.
I'd rather go work in the mines than make that travel distance to go with kids to Disneyworld.
 
I'd rather go work in the mines than make that travel distance to go with kids to Disneyworld.

In which case we'd be correct to criticize you when we spot your mug next to Mickey Mouse.
 
I disagree. You should be allowed to enjoy your money and time off. The other times, Belfast and the like are different as they were not sanctioned, this was when players are given time off.

Its only because Manutd players make the headline, otherwise its not an issue is it?

New manager started on Monday, Rashford and Casemiro were back by Monday for the training session.

Are you suggesting underperforming players are not allowed to have a personal life then?

It’s obvious what I’m suggesting, no? Re-read the bit of my post starting with “with everything else going on” and have a think about whether or not his decision to spend a high profile weekend in NYC - this particular weekend - was a good idea for Rashford. But we all know the answer to this, seeing as we’re discussing it.
 
It’s obvious what I’m suggesting, no? Re-read the bit of my post starting with “with everything else going on” and have a think about whether or not his decision to spend a high profile weekend in NYC - this particular weekend - was a good idea for Rashford. But we all know the answer to this, seeing as we’re discussing it.
I really don't think it's a bad idea to have a full mental "reset", especially on this particular weekend.

Fresh mind for a fresh start under a new manager.