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Should I allow Managers/Clubs to make transfer every summer or should I lock in the teams drafted fo


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Speed Up Rule of 4 Hours
@oneniltothearsenal a suggestion to speed this up a bit because its slow as feck, we move deadlines to 4 hours but if you PM the player who then gets picked you get 4 more.

Ok lets try this everyone for the first player round to speed things up.

With all players in history open (except Socrates) everyone should be able to leave picks or a list of top 3 with me or others
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. Bob Paisley
Tuppet 1. Helenio Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. Pep Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. (already picked)
Pillow/altodevil
Moby/Raees
Red Tiger
Spontaneous
harms

@Edgar Allan Pillow @altodevil86 @NM
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. Bob Paisley
Tuppet 1. Helenio Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. Pep Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. Sacchi
Pillow/altodevil
Moby/Raees
Red Tiger
Spontaneous
harms
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. Bob Paisley
Tuppet 1. Helenio Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. Pep Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. Guttmann
Pillow/altodevil
Moby/Raees
Red Tiger
Spontaneous
harms

FFS Sacchi is taken too. I'll go with
Gutmann
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. Bob Paisley
Tuppet 1. Helenio Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. Pep Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. Sacchi
Pillow/altodevil 1. B Clough
Moby/Raees
Red Tiger
Spontaneous
harms
 
Use this one @Moby @Raees

Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. B. Paisley
Tuppet 1. H. Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. P. Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. B. Guttmann
Pillow/altodevil 1. B Clough
Moby/Raees
Red Tiger
Spontaneous
harms
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. B. Paisley
Tuppet 1. H. Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. P. Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. B. Guttmann
Pillow/altodevil 1. B Clough
Moby/Raees 1. M. Busby
Red Tiger
Spontaneous
harms

@RedTiger
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. B. Paisley
Tuppet 1. H. Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. P. Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. B. Guttmann
Pillow/altodevil 1. B Clough
Moby/Raees 1. M. Busby
Red Tiger 1. E. Happel
Spontaneous
harms

@spontaneus1
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. B. Paisley
Tuppet 1. H. Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. P. Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. B. Guttmann
Pillow/altodevil 1. B Clough
Moby/Raees 1. M. Busby
Red Tiger 1. E. Happel
Spontaneous 1. O. Hitzfeld
harms

@harms
 
Nice ... it was Clough or Michels for me (completely different styles I know but like both of them).
Had a similar issue with Cruyff or Guttman. Ultimately, I didn't see the point of picking Guttman only to go and piss around with his tactics. Prefer picking players I think Cruyff would like and sit back and watch what he does with them.

The flaw obviously is this isn't Cruyff but an AI with certain rules deviced for the gaming experience.

The other flaw is I don't know whether he wants a back 3 or back 4 so will probably pick several different types of defenders and end up with all the subs on the pitch :lol:
 
Udo Lattek and Di Stefano, can someone update the list and tag the next manager?
 
Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. B. Paisley
Tuppet 1. H. Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. P. Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. B. Guttmann
Pillow/altodevil 1. B Clough
Moby/Raees 1. M. Busby
Red Tiger 1. E. Happel
Spontaneous 1. O. Hitzfeld, D. Maradona
harms 1. Udo Lattek, A. Di Stefano

@RedTiger
 
eff off! Who picks AdS over other GOATs, that too as 1st pick? Hippie!

If there ever was a good time to do that, that would be in a simulated game with no voter bias involved. Great pick. Still have a feeling some of the intangibles around certain players will go completely amiss in-game, but then, I haven't played FM for some time. In fact, the only one I got was 2007 (I knew we were onto something great in the Summer of 2006 :drool:).
 
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Sjor 1. A. Ferguson
Adjudicator 1. B. Robson
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson 1. R. Michels
Mazhar/jb 1. A. Sacchi
2mufc0 1. J. Mourinho
Gio 1. G. Trapattoni
antohan 1. J. Cruyff
Invictus 1. C. Ancelotti
Macern 1. B. Paisley
Tuppet 1. H. Herrera
simonhch 1. Capello
Skizzo/joga 1. M. Lippi
P-Nut0712 1. P. Guardiola
Igor Drefljak 1. LvG
NM 1. B. Guttmann
Pillow/altodevil 1. B Clough
Moby/Raees 1. M. Busby, L. Messi
Red Tiger 1. E. Happel, Pelé
Spontaneous 1. O. Hitzfeld, D. Maradona
harms 1. Udo Lattek, A. Di Stefano

@Edgar Allan Pillow @altodevil86
 
If there ever was a good time to do that, that would be in a simulated game with no voter bias involved. Great pick. Still have a feeling some of the intangibles around certain players will go completely amiss in-game, but then, I haven't played FM for some time. In fact, the only one I got was 2007 (I knew we were onto something great in the Summer of 2006 :drool:).

I was just pissed at missing him. I've been after him for quite a few drafts now.
 
What are the starting ages for these legends in the game?
Di stefano is probably around 22. If I've learned anything from the experiments on here its that fm has a habit of seriously downgrading attributes for players below 18 possibly important mental attributes needed for player development.
 
Sjor (A. Ferguson) 1.
Adjudicator (B. Robson) 1.
BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson (R. Michels) 1.
Mazhar/jb (A. Sacchi) 1.
2mufc0 (J. Mourinho) 1.
Gio (G. Trapattoni) 1.
antohan (J. Cruyff) 1.
Invictus (C. Ancelotti) 1.
Macern (B. Paisley) 1.
Tuppet (H. Herrera) 1.
simonhch (Capello) 1.
Skizzo/joga (M. Lippi) 1.
P-Nut0712 (P. Guardiola) 1.
Igor Drefljak (LvG) 1.
NM (B. Guttmann) 1.
Pillow/altodevil (B Clough) 1. J. Cruyff
Moby/Raees (M. Busby) 1. L. Messi
Red Tiger (E. Happel) 1. Pelé
Spontaneous (O. Hitzfeld) 1. D. Maradona
harms (Udo Lattek) 1. A. Di Stefano
 
Di stefano is probably around 22. If I've learned anything from the experiments on here its that fm has a habit of seriously downgrading attributes for players below 18 possibly important mental attributes needed for player development.
Mental attributes tend to be lower because the trend for player development in fm is physicals peak (early 20s), technicals peak (by 30s) and mentals never really peak and are always growing, iirc.

Also development is affected by determination, (professionalism which is hidden) and form/playing time/level of competition. Any other single attribute has a very small effect.
 
It'll be really interesting to see how accurate they recreate someone as unique as Di Stefano. Was between him and Cruyff for me, figured that they'll be more interesting, although in real life I put Pele at the first place.
 
It'll be really interesting to see how accurate they recreate someone as unique as Di Stefano. Was between him and Cruyff for me, figured that they'll be more interesting, although in real life I put Pele at the first place.

I think its impossible to recreate someone that unique (or really anyone's style of play down to the finer details yet) but I have noticed the AI play him in both AMC and CM slots in somewhat different roles so that actually might depend on the manager