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Chellini loving this result...
That is why I'm glad Southgate isn't the next United manager.
It's the same problem every tournament: the English players who play for good clubs usually have a foreigner supplying the gloss. Saka has Odegaaaaard and Martinelli, Foden has DeBronie and Haaland, Bellingham has every other player around him. Even Mainoo and Shaw rely on Bruno and Garnacho to create anything. I think England players provide a lot of strength to their clubs but are fairly pedestrian when it's just England players together.England look like they could be so good but are actually awful. Bellingham, foden and saka were terrible tonight. Tactics maybe but they didn’t even try to play football
I'm saying my prayers stillYou don't know that he won't be.
Is the history of EnglandChellini loving this result...
It is a bit like Lucy Bronze for the women, was the best in the world in that position, but is starting to lose it.Kyle Walker was terrible on that second goal, he should be blocking that easilly.
How can you despise Spain’s football. It was quick passing attacking football. England just long balled it immediately from kick off and never tried anything else. It was horrendous to watch. I’d watch spain play over them every day of the week and twice on SundaysCongratulations to Spain, absolutely despise the way they play but it is technically good football because it is football that wins trophies and has rarely been countered in the last 15 or so years. Nico Williams has a lot about him and they did very well to deal with Rodri going off seamlessly.
Hopefully Southgate has managed his last game for England. I am not going to start insulting him despite being upset as he's a very professional man who has done his best and gotten us further than anyone else in my lifetime.
I believe that despite getting to the final he did hamper us by sticking with history and name reputation rather than form. Palmer not starting a single game this tournament is poor, the worst of our 3 strikers based on form started every game.
Heartbroken but i'm still excited for the future as I think England have a number of brilliant players. I'm interested to see who gets the job to take us forward.
Just a random thought but a little mention for Guehi who I felt had a reputation making tournament.
This thread became very weird. What us up with all these gloating? Spaniards excluded of course
It’s Tournament football. The point is they were poor in key moments.When did we play better?
Chellini loving this result...
It is a bit like Lucy Bronze for the women, was the best in the world in that position, but is starting to lose it.
Some respect needs to be put on Cucu’s name. Was fantastic to end the season for Chelsea during our winning run and has been the best fullback at the Euro’s.
Rice is basically like playing a CB in midfield. The least technical player of all the midfielders out there.
Also you make Harry Kane captain, the guy who is supposed to inspire us and he puts in those terrible performances through the tournament. The definition of a spursy player.
How bad is the german league if kane if tearing it up over there?!
Yes, England lost, and Spain won from an offside goal. Two true facts.
He is done.Kane is 30 years old and plays like current Ronaldo at 39.
He’s never relied on his pace much but he seems to have lost his touch now, it’s bizarre. Maybe the Bundesliga really is a farmers league, mind boggling how he has scored so many this season.Kane is 30 years old and plays like current Ronaldo at 39.
Absolutely. We had a spell of being on top and hitting them with pace, which Spain didn’t like. Took a coward of a manager to then play for ET rather than go for it. Hopefully the FA don’t give him another contract. The squad we had for this Tournament was as good, if not better, than any other country - just took an extraordinary bad manager to make them play so badly.Why would i blame players? I am neutral here. I don't care who won. But after 1:1 Spain was shocked. That was a time to win a game.
How can you despise Spain’s football. It was quick passing attacking football. England just long balled it immediately from kick off and never tried anything else. It was horrendous to watch. I’d watch slain play over them every day of the week and twice on Sundays
It's the same problem every tournament: the English players who play for good clubs usually have a foreigner supplying the gloss. Saka has Odegaaaaard and Martinelli, Foden has DeBronie and Haaland, Bellingham has every other player around him. Even Mainoo and Shaw rely on Bruno and Garnacho to create anything. I think England players provide a lot of strength to their clubs but are fairly pedestrian when it's just England players together.
It's gotten him to 2 finals, and they've come close to winning either of them. I can see why he'd stick to his guns.Someone should tell Southgate that scoring goals wins games. fecker plays for pens every game.
in the end, it was absolutely deserved win for the best team in the whole tournament with vast majority of neutrals also getting the outcome they wanted.
on one side you have England with the most boring manager around, playing their usual shitty football and stinking the place out, getting lucky with the draw yet again while also getting dodgy penalties awarded by referees previously suspended for match fixing. they also field one of the biggest primadonnas in football, such as Bellingham. very little to like there tbf. it's no wonder that bands like Coldplay come from England of all places.
and then you have Spain, playing positive and creative brand of football with some very young players that are actually fairly likeable compared to some diving cnuts they used to have in previous championships. they also eliminated Germany and France, while toying with Croatia and Italy in their group.
this was the preferred outcome for pretty much every neutral fan. bar Germany and Spain, none of those bigger nations even tried to play attractive football and entertain the fans so it's fitting that we got the new champion from one of those two.
yaaaasay.
He can't stay fit for five minutes either.We need Reece James.