They would have finished in the order the previous 57 laps had gone, rather than make Hamilton race a one off handicapped.
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You can't make decisions based on feelings, they need to make them based on the rules. That's the whole point of the rules and them as stewards.
He always sounds so rife for a change of mind, he’s like my boss, goes with the last person he speaks to.
They have to it’s all lapped cars or none.
What that says is that if the message 'lapped cars may now overtake has been sent to all teams' then any cars that have been lapped.
That's not the message that was sent out in this race. The message was 'lapped cars 4 (norris) - 16 - 31 - 16 - 5 to overake safety car'
So technically that's not in violation of the text you've posted above, because that describes as a race control message that tells all cars to pass. It doesn't specifically say that the 'clerk of the course' aren't allowed to make other calls than the two scenarios described within the text.
2010 was better I think. This sits above 2007/2008 though.
but has to do it next to horner and dr helmet.
Gosh Horner really is a prick
You can't be serious
This will be interesting.
I dont think it will go any further. Max is Champion end of. I just think lessons need to be learned from this to make sure any race or championship isn't decided in a room again.
I think the CAFE F1 thread, should take this to CAS.I think Mercedes should take this to CAS.
I hope not. I think he’s been robbed but it would be massively depressing to see it decided in Court. Would stain the sport forever. I know that’s not logical in any way, but it’s just a gut feeling
Merc should wait till a day before 2022 and pull out ... ferrari their engine contracts and set a new championship up with audi
I think the incident on lap 1 should have been investigated
And the season ending behind the SC would have been so anticlimatic it would have been pretty much a farce.
The decision to let only a few cars unlap themselves was the farce to end all farces though
Fair fecks to Max, he's as big a prodigy as he is a cnut, but this was lunacy from Masi. Fecking hell
And the season ending behind the SC would have been so anticlimatic it would have been pretty much a farce.
The decision to let only a few cars unlap themselves was the farce to end all farces though
Fair fecks to Max, he's as big a prodigy as he is a cnut, but this was lunacy from Masi. Fecking hell
Where is the Toto interview!?
It was great if you like WWE style sport drama.You can't be serious
Super F1 League?
Think it's too late to worry about that.
As someone who is new to F1 this season and still doesn’t quite understand a lot of what goes on and the terminology/strategy, one thing has stood out for me and that’s how much controversy there are in races with regards to the application of the rules. Is this something that is common in F1 seasons or has it been particularly bad this year?
The first F1 race I’ve watched for years - that wasn’t racing. Won’t be watching again
All balls count 10x in the last frame, apparently.
I thought Lewis had been managed by the England Cricket Team the way he collapsed at the end.
He was on a much slower car. Mercedes have been a rocket in latter part of the season, Max showed incredible craft throughout the season.
He was fortunate today, but he had his share of misfortune at Baku, Hungary and Silverstone. Deserved champion for the year, even though ending was straight out of Hollywood and leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
Yeah no arguments about past races but that today was a disgrace to the sport how can a driver be leading by 12 seconds to a guy 6 cars behind him to be put head to head with a lap to go it’s something straight out of a WWE’s scripted storyline.
No. The rules say they unlap themselves and the safety car comes in at the end of the lap. It would have ended under safety car - but Masi wanted to let them race because the previous 57 laps didn’t count.
Next year is a great unknown with the rule change. I'm half expecting a smaller team to have the winning package. Maybe Mclaren or similar. Title could be anyones.
To be honest, if this is how F1 is going to be officiated by Masi, any win next year would also be hollow.
They basically got to decide who would win the championship and ignored everything Hamilton had done for the previous 57 laps and had earned the win
Classy from Lewis, as much as I dislike him he was very humble even when he had every reason not to be.
Aye, historic in the way Donald Trump's escalator ride was.
He's not wrong. It really is a historic race given how it ended. This farce will never be topped.
Not so much in the past when Charlie was still at the helm. He was well respected and consistent with the ruling.
Great for the sport tbf.
I think Merc will have their say and then drop it and come back hard next year.
I wouldn't put money on Lewis coming back though I don't think it is certain he might not need all the bullshit.
It really seems like a fix and goes against regulations. As others have stated, you either let them all overtake or none. If they’d wanted an exciting race they’d have red flagged it and Lewis would have gone on softs and they’d have raced it out. He had absolutely no chance to win against fresh tyres so the decision taken essentially went against regulations to hand Max the championship. I really can’t apply any other logic to this other than it was a deliberate breaking of the rules so that Max would win. It’s so bizarre. I’m not a Hamilton fanboy, I just want it to be fair. I feel so bad for him, he raced brilliantly today.
Bad this year, but there's always been controversy. Less within-race rules though. In the past it was mostly development/testing mid-season changes.
True. I do like Newey.
What are you talking about? That was the mother of all races.
Credit to Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton. Champions in spirit.
Historic fix?