F1 2021 Season

So much in racing is hard to legislate and is down to opinion, ie lap 1 incident. If it’s true that the rules weren’t followed for something like a race restart then it’s really bizarre. It’s such an easy area to fully implement the rules. They had 3 full laps to think about how it was going to happen, yet they still couldn’t implement the rules correctly.
 
Max as classless in his interviews as Red Bull has been all season and the Max fanboys have been in here today. This was plain and simple a fix. We all saw it. The FIA handed Verstappen the world title. For anyone to be celebrating that like it was anything other than a total shambles and a sham is laughable.

Embarrassing for the sport. Downright embarrassing. Red Bull couldn’t win it fairly. Lewis had done it. So the FIA intervened. Shocking stuff. Verstappen will always be a fake world champ until he wins it fairly. But to win it this way is in keeping with the way he drives, he conducts himself and his team conduct themselves.

Shameful stuff. What a total embarrassment. I was really, really angry at first. Now I’m just laughing at how desperate some people are for Verstappen to win and to claim this as a victory. It wasn’t, it was just a fix.

Hamilton is still the champ. Plain and simple. He won today.
Both teams were embarrassing this season. Almost all decisions from stewards were a joke to help both teams.
 
Surely this is a case of "oops we fecked up" and that's it right? Like when PL refs feck up big time, the results still stands regardless...?
I’d love an answer to this. This race isn’t on its own and means as much as previous races so would t challenging this open the door for RB to challenge previous decisions?
What a shit show.
 
Was a bit disappointed in Lewis after all that went on. I think he could've had Max more on the outside to defend on the first lap and last lap. Watch how Max knows to keep Lewis outside when he tried to come back. Lewis just left the door open a bit too much today which allows for a lunge and also he was a bit poor in getting past Perez. Perhaps should've handled the restart better, he had max right up alongside.

Once the track was clear they allowed the cars to be cleared to go racing, usually Max would be there on fresh tyres under a safety car. Merc should've pitted Lewis then Red Bull would've been a sitting duck but it's a gamble if they don't clear the car in time. Red Bull would've stayed out and lost the race by Lewis overtaking or pitted themselves after Lewis then both have fresh tyres as they were.

Max has just had the guile and craftiness to edge Lewis out. Merc and Lewis should've handled Imola much better. Max can afford to bin a race back then.
 
So much in racing is hard to legislate and is down to opinion, ie lap 1 incident. If it’s true that the rules weren’t followed for something like a race restart then it’s really bizarre. It’s such an easy area to fully implement the rules. They had 3 full laps to think about how it was going to happen, yet they still couldn’t implement the rules correctly.

I mean it’s pretty clearly a fix. No other way you can interpret it.
 
Deserved feck all today clearly outraced the whole way through

Red Bull made decisions because they had nothing to lose being on average 18 seconds behind for most of the race.

:lol:

He was on a much slower car. Mercedes have been a rocket in latter part of the season, Max showed incredible craft throughout the season.

He was fortunate today, but he had his share of misfortune at Baku, Hungary and Silverstone. Deserved champion for the year, even though ending was straight out of Hollywood and leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
 
Can’t believe that. And now Horner is claiming it was some kind of strategic victory when it was safety cars and shite race direction that has won it for them.
 
The first race I've watched since 2009. This incident at the end isn't why I stopped watching F1 but does leave a sour taste. I'm not familiar with the rules, so perhaps it was just Hamiltom being a bit unfortunate with the crash at the end alongside his tyre strategy.
 
What would the situation have been if it wasn't only 5 unlapped cars?

Race would have ended under the SC. Lapped cars call is never made that late either by the way, the SC usually goes in the lap after letting them go by.

It's just completely made up rules, "go racing" and all that shite. It won't go anywhere if Mercedes appeal but they should because Masi shouldn't have a job.
 
It undermines the entire sport, it makes a mockery of the whole thing. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to have such frothing-at-the-mouth hatred for Hamilton that they can’t see the bigger picture.
Yeah exactly. People who care for the sport should be asking serious questions about the finish of that race.
 
What would the situation have been if it wasn't only 5 unlapped cars?
Probably don't have enough time for them to all go through before the SC can come in at the end of the penultimate lap, so you'd finish under SC and Hamilton 1st.
 
Can’t believe that. And now Horner is claiming it was some kind of strategic victory when it was safety cars and shite race direction that has won it for them.

just horner things.
 
What would the situation have been if it wasn't only 5 unlapped cars?
The race would have finished behind the safety car or all cars would have to unlap themselves and the race would finish by the time the unlapping would have been completed. Both ways Lewis would win.
 
What would the situation have been if it wasn't only 5 unlapped cars?
Do you mean if they let through all unlapped cars? That would have been half the grid having to make their way through and they wouldn't get clear enough in time for the safety car to come in that lap and racing to resume. Especially since by rule, once the last lapped car goes past the safety car, the safety car comes in the next lap not that same lap - another rule Masi ignored to create this farce.
 
So much in racing is hard to legislate and is down to opinion, ie lap 1 incident. If it’s true that the rules weren’t followed for something like a race restart then it’s really bizarre. It’s such an easy area to fully implement the rules. They had 3 full laps to think about how it was going to happen, yet they still couldn’t implement the rules correctly.
They already planned for something only to flip flop on the decision when Horner complained.

Masi is just terrible at his job.
 
Was a bit disappointed in Lewis after all that went on. I think he could've had Max more on the outside to defend on the first lap and last lap. Watch how Max knows to keep Lewis outside when he tried to come back. Lewis just left the door open a bit too much today which allows for a lunge and also he was a bit poor in getting past Perez. Perhaps should've handled the restart better, he had max right up alongside.

Once the track was clear they allowed the cars to be cleared to go racing, usually Max would be there on fresh tyres under a safety car. Merc should've pitted Lewis then Red Bull would've been a sitting duck but it's a gamble if they don't clear the car in time. Red Bull would've stayed out and lost the race by Lewis overtaking or pitted themselves after Lewis then both have fresh tyres as they were.

Max has just had the guile and craftiness to edge Lewis out. Merc and Lewis should've handled Imola much better. Max can afford to bin a race back then.

Lewis did all he could to defend as he can't afford to let the cars collide. On the other hand, Max can be as aggressive as he wants as he knows he will still win if both cars are out.
 
The wording of any cars versus all cars will be key in the next few weeks if Mercedes decide to do anything.

Suspect they won’t though.
 
I think in hindsight they should’ve red flagged it and had a standing start

That would have been fairest way

The stewards were in a shit situation where they basically had to decide who wins the championship. Putting Max behind Lewis on them tyres Hamilton was never going to be able to keep him behind. Yet if they kept the lapped in between them Max probably wouldnt have caught Lewis in one lap.

I get it was a hard choice for the stewards but they went for the most blatant wrong call and completely changed the rules for the most entertaining finish but it was also the most unfair.
 
I guess but how often does one decision hinge on the title.
Much bigger than that on the last lap of the whole championship
Well the accumulation of those decisions over the season would be the equivalent.
And truth be told, over the season, FIA surely has messed up multiple times as well, but yeah, to do it in this fashion is astonishing, but alas, as I expect, I don't think anything will come of the outcry.
 
Come on man, he deserves the championship.

It's such a crappy way to win and Lewis was comfortably winning through the race, but saying Max doesn't deserve it is just not right, even with the controversial driving in recent races (I've been rooting for Lewis too and I cannot stand Max).
If Latifi didn't crash, would Max still have deserved it? Or rather, would Hamilton have been an undeserving winner? The way I'm seeing it, the rules had to be changed on a whim for Verstappen to win today, and therefore win the championship.

That doesn't scream deserved to me.
 
That was the best season I've watched in nearly 30 years watching formula 1.
Unbelievable it went down to the last lap. Fair play to Red Bull and Honda for getting close to Mercedes.
Amazing, amazing stuff.
Historic season, historic race, historic lap