F1 2021 Season

Is there any question about legality. Max passed and won, i don't think that passing was out of the order ..
The race shouldn't have restarted with only the people between Max and Lewis being allowed to unlap. Also, by the rules, the unlapped drivers needed to make it to the back of the field.

This was a fix.
 
Lewis had great pace today and was practically winning it until that Latifi crash and then everything got all chaotic at his disadvantage.
 
Obviously Lewis was hard done by but my God, that was the most thrilling lap I've ever seen in an F1 race.

That was not even the most thrilling lap in the last 2 weeks . One guy on new soft tires and other on 40 lap old hard tires is not really a contest
 
I honestly don't mind Max winning but that was seriously horrible sporting.

I'm still gobsmacked they fixed it so blatantly.
 
That was not even the most thrilling lap in the last 2 weeks . One guy on new soft tires and other on 40 lap old hard tires is not really a contest
The problem is this new shiny F1 audience don't understand that that wasn't a race.
 
Are you also saying you get zero joy from seeing Liverpool or City suffer a humiliating defeat? Didn't have a chuckle at Pools 7-1 loss last season?

The state of the posts in here, love the salt.

Conveniently forgetting Bottas at Hungary, Hamilton at Silverstone and of course Baku mishap for Max :lol:
 
Come on man, he deserves the championship.

It's such a crappy way to win and Lewis was comfortably winning through the race, but saying Max doesn't deserve it is just not right, even with the controversial driving in recent races (I've been rooting for Lewis too and I cannot stand Max).
No doubt he is a fast driver. But he very much didn't deserve it today. The FIA manipulated the outcome. How did only 5 cars get moved out of the way?
 
Are you also saying you get zero joy from seeing Liverpool or City suffer a humiliating defeat? Didn't have a chuckle at Pools 7-1 loss last season?

That's such a bad analogy.

For a start, I always give Liverpool stick, I don't hide away. If you want to lurk a thread and don't want to join in, that's fine. But to then run your mouth only when your side wins in such a fashion is simply pathetic wumming.
 
Fantastic day for the sport, fully deserved for Verstappen - a great performance out of him all year, a fitting end. Very tactically astute from Red Bull and a very poor decision from Mercedes not to react to their pits. Very enjoyable viewing.


Deserved feck all today clearly outraced the whole way through

Red Bull made decisions because they had nothing to lose being on average 18 seconds behind for most of the race.
 
I think in hindsight they should’ve red flagged it and had a standing start
 
The fairest thing to do now would be to have Lewis and Max do a thumb war to decide the championship.
 
Max had a great season and deserved the win just as much as Lewis did but it’s hilarious to suggest that this is a great day for the sport . It’s an embarrassing day for the sport
 
The problem is this new shiny F1 audience don't understand that that wasn't a race.
Exactly, just love the drama and moments excitement not realising how absolutely unfair and such a farce it was
 
Have Lewis or Toto spoken yet?
Lewis has and was incredibly gracious in defeat, the only thing we've heard from Toto was his message to Masi which got a smug response from the race director, guessing he's off smashing tables.
 
I'm OK with Max winning, both drivers were exceptional this year and both deserve it. They have to keep it a sport rather than something manufactured for TV though and rules are written for everybody to follow.

I hope it doesn't get stupid and taken to CAS by Mercedes, but the FIA definitely need to review the rules and make sure they are fit for purpose.

In a way I hope it does.

I don't want the title changed, I don't care. But this farce needs to end if it's to become a sport again.
 
No doubt he is a fast driver. But he very much didn't deserve it today. The FIA manipulated the outcome. How did only 5 cars get moved out of the way?

I'll repeat what I just said:

Deserving the championship, and deserving the race win are totally different things.
Through the course of the season, both Lewis and Max have deserved to be number 1.
There is no need to be so biased.
I'll repeat, I absolutely cannot stand Max but I'm not so deluded to say he doesn't deserve this.
 
Surely the title will end up with Lewis eventually?
What would the alternative be though, if race control were found to be in the wrong here? (In whatever way.) Cancel out the last lap, and let the order at the finish line of the previous lap be the final standings? Cause you can't give any driver a penalty for this, re-race that lap, or rearrange the outcome based on an assumption of how Verstappen would have been hindered by those five cars.
 
Surely this is a case of "oops we fecked up" and that's it right? Like when PL refs feck up big time, the results still stands regardless...?

yeah nothing changes results wise. masi will be at the job centre before the start of next season.