F1 2021 Season

They go trough one at a time apart of Norris who bumps tyres.
the difference here is Leclerc is already ahead on the outside. He's claimed the corner so Norris needs to give more room.

It's the other way around for Hamilton and you can't go around the outside when the next turn is left, Lewis is always going to move across back into him.
 
Look at the screenshot I posted earlier in the thread and watch the video in the tweet from Sky Sports of Norris and LeClerc.

I can’t be arsed arguing this anymore, I don’t even like Max :lol:
the difference here is Leclerc is already ahead on the outside. He's claimed the corner so Norris needs to give more room.

It's the other way around for Hamilton and you can't go around the outside when the next turn is left, Lewis is always going to move across back into him.
 
Damon Hill spot on. Max knew that he had to take Lewis out.

Lewis has backed out of similar situations even in this race, also Imola.

Max was hot headed after his poor pit stop and it impacted his judgement.

You know of Horner is only making a case for a racing incident but not blaming Lewis, Max is predominantly to blame.
 
As a Lewis fan it is so frustrating to have seen that happen . In hindsight Lewis had more to lose and should have yielded. He had the faster car and could have caught him later . Verstappen was very frustrated with his stop and also knew that he would struggle to catch Hamilton if he got away so he was never going to hold back . This worked out much better for him
Max should've yielded. Problem is that he never does and never has. Incidents like this are littered across his short career.
 
If it was any other rider Max would've ceded his positioning imo, but he's not giving up anything to Hamilton. I think it's his fault but not that egregious either.

Feck Verstappen though. He's such a baby a lot of times (tbf so is Lewis but I like him a bit more).
 
Likewise I don’t think its blatant. But, my point is there is NO difference to this and the lap one incident in Silverstone. Once Lewis was given a penalty there, I strongly feel it is only fair to give Max a penalty here. What’s your take on the Silverstone point?

I actually agree with you - I think the lap one incident here, at Silverstone and this crash, were all racing incidents. But once a penalty was given to Lewis in Silverstone I feel it must be given to Max here because otherwise it’s inconsistent. If I had it my way none of them would be penalties.

If I’ve seen that silverstone incident I don’t remember it :lol:
 
This thread :lol::lol::lol:



For what? I'd love to know what people expected Max to do? He didn't have the space which resulted in him hitting the curb. He didn't try to hit Hamilton or anything, was bounced into him.
Use the run off like Hamilton did in this very same race against the very same driver in turn 4 earlier on.

Such immature driving. Max was behind all the way, not ahead at any point in that chicane. He had to yield.

The same people calling for Lewis's head at Silverstone, when at times in that Silverstone corner, Lewis was ahead, are now claiming this is only a racing incident. Ridiculous.
 
After all the noise about Riccardo not settling in quickly....
He's definitely struggled this year and he admits that. Today he was good though.

He will struggle again though on other tighter tracks with more braking zones, but lets hope this is the start of a change for him.
 
If it was any other rider Max would've ceded his positioning imo, but he's not giving up anything to Hamilton. I think it's his fault but not that egregious either.

Feck Verstappen though. He's such a baby a lot of times (tbf so is Lewis but I like him a bit more).

I thought every Belgium and Holland rally behind Max.
 
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I don't think the Norris / Le Clerc incident is the same. Don't think you can apply normal corner rules to a chicane either. Don't care too much because I'm not a big fan of either driver but I do reckon Verstappen is more to blame here.
 
Hamilton in shock U-Turn - what a prick.

This is a very level-headed way to react to a driver changing their mind about something after it saves lives.

Surely it's a good thing he changed his mind after seeing it work? Or should he continue to think its bad?
 
This is a very level-headed way to react to a driver changing their mind about something after it saves lives.

Surely it's a good thing he changed his mind after seeing it work? Or should he continue to think its bad?
Yep, if you're not sure about something before it's implemented, then you must continue to be against it even after it's demonstrated to be a good thing. Because if there is one thing we don't have enough of in this world, it's people doubling down on wrong opinions.
 
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I don't think the Norris / Le Clerc incident is the same. Don't think you can apply normal corner rules to a chicane either. Don't care too much because I'm not a big fan of either driver but I do reckon Verstappen is more to blame here.
There you go. Spells it out clearly.

@Rado_N
I see the UK cry babies are still here! :lol:
You ok mate? finally accepting Max is a wreckless driver? ;)
 
I thought every Belgium and Holland rally behind Max.
His Belgian connection + the fact that most F1 fans I know are tired of Lewis winning means that they want Max to win yeah. I don't particularly dislike him or anything but it's true that such incidents aren't isolated cases throughout his career, he needs to be a better decision-maker at times and realize that he's not racing alone, no one is gonna give him anything and that he might be playing with his opponent's safety sometims. Not saying Lewis is exempt from those things, but imo it seems like Max is more involved in stuff like that and that's just a pity.
 
You ok mate? finally accepting Max is a wreckless driver? ;)

reckless? i wouldn’t call landing your car on someone’s head, then trying to accelerate off their head, then getting out of the car without even checking on that person’s head, reckless.
 
Max always had the choice of bailing out of the move and going again another lap.

I don’t think Lewis had another choice.
 
I think if max was going into anyone else he would have bailed but he benefited from taking out Lewis
 
reckless? i wouldn’t call landing your car on someone’s head, then trying to accelerate off their head, then getting out of the car without even checking on that person’s head, reckless.

Did he know though? Its not like the cars have rear camera or big mirrors to see where his rear end hit Hamilton car.