They could do a whole Olympics, but they can't do a by default bubbled event like a grand prix ?
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They could do a whole Olympics, but they can't do a by default bubbled event like a grand prix ?
There's a difference when the Japanese government and Japanese tax payers had money at stake in terms of funding for the olympics.
No, they actually lost money on the Olympics. The difference is that they had no control- it was fully in the IOC hands.
My point is that the tax payers are not footing the bill for the Japanese GP which makes the decision to cancel much easier and less political.
Sure, but it's also much less risk involved, that's why I question the decision.
Risk for what though? The government were going to put it on behind closed doors like the Olympics, and Liberty aren't subsidising promoters this season like they were through covid last year. If there's no fans at the race, then it's pretty much a loss making event and pointless to run, the decision was already made to a certain degree.
Wouldn't be surprised now if Mugello makes another appearance, and possibly another visit to Bahrain.
There is also not a billion+ pound fine for canceling the F1 as there was for the Olympics.
Only good one is Hamiltons
Japan probably won't be the last cancellation yet, I would guess the US, Mexican and Brazilian GP's are all a bit risky.
The US grand prix is in Texas; I'd say that's very unlikely to be cancelled. (Even if that would make no sense when the time comes.)
Theres talk of a double header at texas to make up for losing the Japanese GP. I hate back to back races at the same track with the same layout. Bahrain being the exception. Normal layout and the awesome short layout.
They will likely require proof that you have visited Florida in the last week.
The Losail International Circuit in Qatar is reportedly set to replace Melbourne as a replacement venue on Formula 1's 2021 calendar.
The cancellation of the Australian Grand Prix due to the Covid-19 pandemic has left F1's schedule with a free slot in November. Formula 1 has been considering alternative venues, in both November and in October following the annulment of the Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, also due to the coronavirus pandemic.
In order to preserve F1's 23-race agenda, a double-header at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin has reportedly been tabled as well as a return to Bahrain.
But according to multiple sources, Qatar has come to the forefront as a probable replacement venue for November
The peninsular Arab country has been on MotoGP's map since 2004, while the Losail International Circuit, which holds an FIA Grade 1 licence, has also staged rounds of the World Superbike series as well as of the World Touring Car Championship.
The venue's addition to the calendar in late November would concentrate Formula 1's final leg in the Middle-East, with Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi hosting the final two rounds of the 2021 F1 season.
After F1's upcoming Spa-Zandvoort-Monza triple-header, teams are scheduled to head to Russia and then to Turkey. However, the latter is still currently on the UK's red list - countries from where returning travelers need to quarantine for 10 days in a government hotel in the UK - a status that puts the event in Istanbul in jeopardy.
The same applies for Mexico and Brazil, the second and third rounds of F1's leg on the American continent.
The cancellation of the Australian Grand Prix due to the Covid-19 pandemic has left F1's schedule with a free slot in November. Formula 1 has been considering alternative venues, in both November and in October following the annulment of the Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, also due to the coronavirus pandemic.
In order to preserve F1's 23-race agenda, a double-header at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin has reportedly been tabled as well as a return to Bahrain.
But according to multiple sources, Qatar has come to the forefront as a probable replacement venue for November
The peninsular Arab country has been on MotoGP's map since 2004, while the Losail International Circuit, which holds an FIA Grade 1 licence, has also staged rounds of the World Superbike series as well as of the World Touring Car Championship.
The venue's addition to the calendar in late November would concentrate Formula 1's final leg in the Middle-East, with Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi hosting the final two rounds of the 2021 F1 season.
After F1's upcoming Spa-Zandvoort-Monza triple-header, teams are scheduled to head to Russia and then to Turkey. However, the latter is still currently on the UK's red list - countries from where returning travelers need to quarantine for 10 days in a government hotel in the UK - a status that puts the event in Istanbul in jeopardy.
The same applies for Mexico and Brazil, the second and third rounds of F1's leg on the American continent.
Losail would be a boring circuit for F1. I'd rather see anther circuit do a double header and mix it up with tyre choices.
Never seen any race at it.
But it looks like it could be OK , couple of fast straights, 16 corners, looks like a few good overtaking places.
This vid is only a sim but gives you an idea
Agreed, amazing how they managed to create a circuit with literally no redeeming features.
It's more of a MOTOGP style circuit. Lots of flowing, sweeping corners that transition into each other.
It's not really that it's a bad circuit, it actually looks very fun to drive.
It's more the fact modern f1 cars only work on certain style of tracks. With the dirty air issue right now cars just wouldn't be able to get close to eachother, and I don't see many late braking areas that they could lunge into.
Anyway, needs must - if there's nowhere else that'll be safe enough or work logistically then it'lll have to do.
It probably is fun to drive because its lovely sweeping stuff but that is boring unless you break it up with some big stopping zones or... well anything. I couldn't remember a single corner on that circuit, it just exists.
The Alpine F1 team unsurprisingly confirmed its 2022 line-up, with Fernando Alonso racing alongside Esteban Ocon whose contract with the French outfit runs until the end of 2024.
You think? I thought the opposite - I cant see many, if any, overtaking places on that track since as someone above pointed out, I cant see how cars will be able to stay close to the car ahead without a huge speed advantage because of dirty air.
I have only seen that vid of the track, you make a good point about the dirty air.
Lewis Hamilton says a very uncomfortable bump that has appeared at Spa's Eau Rouge has "kind of ruined" the daunting corner, the Mercedes driver speculating that the issue may be linked to recent mudslides.
Then this crash , he could be right.
This crash was shocking
Then this crash , he could be right.
This crash was shocking
Belgium GP Free Practise
Belgian GP Practice One Timesheet
Belgian GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | 1:45.199 |
| 2) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +0.164 |
| 3) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.500 |
| 4) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.619 |
| 5) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.736 |
| 6) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.928 |
| 7) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +0.978 |
| 8) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.138 |
| 9) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +1.298 |
| 10) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +1.413 |
| 11) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.450 |
| 12) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +1.484 |
| 13) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +1.556 |
| 14) George Russell | Williams | +1.573 |
| 15) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.729 |
| 16) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +1.902 |
| 17) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +2.926 |
| 18) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +3.025 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +3.506 |
| 20) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +3.860 |
Belgian GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:44.472 |
| 2) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | +0.041 |
| 3) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.072 |
| 4) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +0.481 |
| 5) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +0.493 |
| 6) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +0.708 |
| 7) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +0.830 |
| 8) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +0.864 |
| 9) Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.914 |
| 10) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.932 |
| 11) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +1.045 |
| 12) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.286 |
| 13) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +1.317 |
| 14) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +1.495 |
| 15) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +1.646 |
| 16) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +1.726 |
| 17) George Russell | Williams | +2.193 |
| 18) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +2.364 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +2.863 |
| 20) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +3.057 |
The car coming in as the video ended is particularly bad. I hope everyone is ok.
Damn. Thankfully everyone seems to be alright. Incredible they all walked away from a crash like that with just a little soreness.
Belgian GP Practice Three Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:56.924 |
| 2) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.947 |
| 3) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +1.072 |
| 4) Lando Norris | McLaren | +1.585 |
| 5) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +1.989 |
| 6) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +2.281 |
| 7) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +2.400 |
| 8) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +2.512 |
| 9) George Russell | Williams | +2.568 |
| 10) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +2.689 |
| 11) Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | +2.884 |
| 12) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +3.057 |
| 13) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +3.532 |
| 14) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +3.825 |
| 15) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +4.345 |
| 16) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +4.446 |
| 17) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +4.586 |
| 18) Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | +4.588 |
| 19) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | +4.868 |
| 20) Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | +7.458 |
It was a scary crash, agred HALO saved a couple of lives, couple taken to hospital for precautionary checks
This is incredible.
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Seems to be blocked?
have to watch on youtube.
It is very good, the ride is brutal.
Belgium GP Qualifying
wet qualifying , should be interesting.
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Updated again 2021 Calendar
Formula 1 has tweaked its 2021 calendar, changing several race dates and reducing the year's schedule from 23 to 22 events.
As the global Covid-19 pandemic continues to challenge race organisers, with Japan recently joining this season's list of cancellations, the sport's logistics are being challenged, forcing Formula One Management to integrate ongoing changes.
While the schedule remains intact up until the Russian Grand Prix in late September, Turkey, Mexico and Brazil have all been pushed back by a week, with Turkey therefore filling the previously TBA slot scheduled on October 10, which reduces the calendar to 22 rounds.
The race in Istanbul remains on F1's agenda despite the country still being earmarked on the UK's red list. But the latter is expected to be updated on September 16 by the UK government, at which point a final will likely be made on Turkey.
If the event is scrapped, Mugello could be slotted in as a replacement venue.
Formula 1 has a weekend open right after Brazil on November 21, and many expect the slot to be filled by Qatar's Losail International Circuit, but a second race in Bahrain is reportedly still being considered.
As previously planned, the season will end with F1's maiden visit to Saudi Arabia and the final round at Yas Marina in Abu Dhabi.
Stefano Domenicali, President and CEO of Formula 1, said: “We are very pleased to announce the updates to the 2021 calendar following extensive discussions with the promoters and national authorities.
"The pandemic continues to present the season with challenges but we have proven we can adapt and we are confident we can deliver a record breaking 22 races this year despite a global pandemic.”
"I want to thank the promoters in Brazil, Mexico and Turkey for their patience and flexibility and we will provide the details of the final addition soon.
"This season is proving to be an incredible battle on the track and this is hugely exciting for our fans around the world and we look forward to the intensity continuing in the races ahead."
As the global Covid-19 pandemic continues to challenge race organisers, with Japan recently joining this season's list of cancellations, the sport's logistics are being challenged, forcing Formula One Management to integrate ongoing changes.
While the schedule remains intact up until the Russian Grand Prix in late September, Turkey, Mexico and Brazil have all been pushed back by a week, with Turkey therefore filling the previously TBA slot scheduled on October 10, which reduces the calendar to 22 rounds.
The race in Istanbul remains on F1's agenda despite the country still being earmarked on the UK's red list. But the latter is expected to be updated on September 16 by the UK government, at which point a final will likely be made on Turkey.
If the event is scrapped, Mugello could be slotted in as a replacement venue.
Formula 1 has a weekend open right after Brazil on November 21, and many expect the slot to be filled by Qatar's Losail International Circuit, but a second race in Bahrain is reportedly still being considered.
As previously planned, the season will end with F1's maiden visit to Saudi Arabia and the final round at Yas Marina in Abu Dhabi.
Stefano Domenicali, President and CEO of Formula 1, said: “We are very pleased to announce the updates to the 2021 calendar following extensive discussions with the promoters and national authorities.
"The pandemic continues to present the season with challenges but we have proven we can adapt and we are confident we can deliver a record breaking 22 races this year despite a global pandemic.”
"I want to thank the promoters in Brazil, Mexico and Turkey for their patience and flexibility and we will provide the details of the final addition soon.
"This season is proving to be an incredible battle on the track and this is hugely exciting for our fans around the world and we look forward to the intensity continuing in the races ahead."
looking at the rain, could qualifying be delayed ?
The track now.
Qualifying is not starting anytime soon.
Put simply, the rain is absolutely hammering down at Spa as we move towards the schedule start time of Q1.
"It's surely going to be delayed," says Paul Di Resta as the Safety Car takes on some laps.
"It's surely going to be delayed," says Paul Di Resta as the Safety Car takes on some laps.