If this is part of a package for Vidal, I'd go with it on the condition that Evra gets a testimonial, because the bugger deserves one and he's been here for nine seasons already. That one last season means he gets a proper sending off from the club that he has been truer to than almost any other foreign player ever, definitely in the past decade or two. And that is saying something considering the players we've gone through in that time!
Evra to Juve?
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Agreed. If he does go, we should start a petition for Evra to get a testimonial, despite not completing 10 years of service. He's given us so much in 9 years he's been with us, that alone warrants a testimonial. The mods should keep an eye on what happens and if he does go, get the petition rolling.
How do you know that Evra is a leader 'of the pitch'? I would say that everything points in the other direction. He is not a leader on the pitch, that much we know. And in France they would laugh at people saying he is a leader (WC 2010). I don't mind him sitting on the bench, he's a good cover for Shaw and it would be a waste to buy one more LB when we have Evra.
Rio said on the BBC the other night that Evra is not a leader off the pitch at all, he's quiet in the dressing room and not one to ever deliver rallying cries to his teammates etc. This was after Evra did a speech on the pitch to the French players in a huddle.
Good thing this isn't a football for the French national team, eh? For United he has absolutely been a leader on the pitch. It's common knowledge, really.
I think you are confusing "leader" with "extreme world class best ever football player omg", which isn't what anyone has been saying (although I disagree that he had a worse season than almost every other player in our team, it was a bad season for the team, not the player). What people are saying is that he is a leader in the psychological and motivational sense. He's probably the last damned leader we have, to be honest. RVP never showed much leadership when I watched him play, while Rooney's leadership consists of a lot of schoolboy moaning and bitching. Evra is a genuine leader, a la Rio, Vidic, VDS, Giggs, Neville, Keane, etc.
Has to be part of the Vidal deal, otherwise it would be insane.
Have to say I wouldn't have been bothered about Evra going a few weeks ago, but to be left with Luke Shaw (an 18 year old) as the only 'senior' left back...quite worrying. If he goes, there has to be an arrival. Not Rodriguez quality because having him and Shaw would probably cause more issues than it would solve, but the player has to be competent enough.
Common knowledge? Sorry, that doesen't do it. If it helps I don't think that Vidic is quite the leader and shouldn't be named with names like Keane, Neville and Rio. It's a tricky discussion because we don't really know anything for a fact. But hey, that's just my impression. And according to the poster before you; Rio backs me up.
Oh yes young needs to go , along with fletcher Anderson cleverly and probably fellaini and nani, allot of wages off the books gives us the pathway to bring in better players on those wages, as too many squad players starting matches are on wages they do not deserve
bbc and sky now running with it:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...r-united-to-sign-patrice-evra-say-sky-sources
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28231138
nothing about whever where going to except the bid just that we've been approached, no mention of vidal out else so looks like a stand alone deal where it to happen
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...r-united-to-sign-patrice-evra-say-sky-sources
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28231138
nothing about whever where going to except the bid just that we've been approached, no mention of vidal out else so looks like a stand alone deal where it to happen
Evra and Nani + 25M for Vidal?
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Understood #MUFC wouldn't stand in Patrice Evra's way, should he wish to leave. Told Juventus have made an approach.
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Understood #MUFC wouldn't stand in Patrice Evra's way, should he wish to leave. Told Juventus have made an approach.
Both Ferguson and Moyes have repeatedly praised Evra for his leadership, and I hope Evra sticks around so that LVG can as well. Rio says he is quiet off the pitch, not that he is not a leader on it. We need leaders on the pitch.
If you're assuming that the people in charge of Juve haven't watched Nani since 2011, then yes.
If Vidal is not included in any way in this deal then its basically a failure. We can't lose an experienced LB and one of our only leaders left for pocket money like £3 mill or whatever the hell it is
Nani is currently worth around 10-15m IMO. I rate him far higher than that, but he's done nothing for ages.
11M, he's just too inconsistent.
How much would you value Nani at?
That's what I was thinking. Assuming Evra would go for at least 5M, it would mean offering about 40M for Vidal.
Evra won't go for 5 and Vidal would be about 45-50 IMO.
I suppose I can maybe see why we might be willing to get rid of him, as you'd assume that one year option was on the same terms as previously, in which case you'd again assume that he's on a massive wage per week and having two left backs on massive contracts seems overkill. But I don't know how you can replace that experience, passion for the club and attacking threat without spending a dickload of money on a position we've just spent a dickload of money on. I'd prefer to see him work with Shaw for the season and then, if he's not contributing that much, be sent on his way next summer. It's hardly beyond the realms of possibility that Shaw will struggle in his first season. Surely the couple of million, or whatever it is, can't be of that much importance?
Evra would go for pennies. However, he is surely on a fairly solid salary so freeing that up is the attraction for United.
Very strange to see people speaking of Evra as if he is still a top left-back. He's several years past his prime and is laughably bad defensively. Will be enthralled if we manage obtain a nice fee for this 33 year old player.
However, if we lose Evra and do not sign any other cover for left-back, then I will be disappointed. I still vehemently maintain that selling Fábio was one of Moyes' biggest errors, a talented young player who was appallingly treated by Moyes, never given even the faintest of chances. I will never forgive Moyes for this.
However, if we lose Evra and do not sign any other cover for left-back, then I will be disappointed. I still vehemently maintain that selling Fábio was one of Moyes' biggest errors, a talented young player who was appallingly treated by Moyes, never given even the faintest of chances. I will never forgive Moyes for this.
If that's true then he's going nowhere, given how much he loves the club he'll stay and fight for his place.
I'd be surprised given his injury record as well last 2 seasons anyone even paid that for Nani in a straight cash deal.
Done deal, 3 million €/yr for 2 yrs to the player, 3 million € to United
Evra will cost to Juve 15 million in 2 yrs after tax.
Evra will cost to Juve 15 million in 2 yrs after tax.
Au revoir, Patrice. 
ffs watching this current Utd will be fecking weird now. Not many proper Utd player left
Surely not, how can a 3 million rated player be a part of any package?
Juve rejected any approach for Vidal and Pogba by United, not for sale both.
Source ?
Maybe I'm panicking but this is just a bit slightly mental. So far our most experienced lad in defense is Evans. As much as I respect his work for this club, I really hope we have some players already secured to restore the balance between experience and youth.
Giggs, Rio, Vidic and finally Patrice Evra... This is not some little clear out for the sake of it. It's a serious reform and leaving behind some huge feckin period of our history.
Giggs, Rio, Vidic and finally Patrice Evra... This is not some little clear out for the sake of it. It's a serious reform and leaving behind some huge feckin period of our history.
I am sure I watched a different Evra to some of you for the last few seasons
That doesn't even make mathematical sense.
Whole italian taxation is a no sense.
The hightest in the world probably
The hightest in the world probably
This doesn't seem to be a footballing decision to me. I just think we are being magnanimous and doing what is best for Patrice's career.
Keeping him is very advantageous to us. We have lost all our experience in defense and have brought in an 18 year old as first choice LB. Evra, in the next season can mentor him for that role and next year when he leaves we just need to get in a backup and not someone established. However, if he does leave this year then I think we are inadequate at LB and will need somebody with experience who is also willing to sit on the bench and provide cover. But then Juve may not offer Evra a contract or may offer highly reduced terms.
Although, I would hate it if Evra leaves but I can understand where the club are coming from. He was a great servant to the club and this is one of the reasons I support MUFC. We don't treat players like inanimate assets.
Keeping him is very advantageous to us. We have lost all our experience in defense and have brought in an 18 year old as first choice LB. Evra, in the next season can mentor him for that role and next year when he leaves we just need to get in a backup and not someone established. However, if he does leave this year then I think we are inadequate at LB and will need somebody with experience who is also willing to sit on the bench and provide cover. But then Juve may not offer Evra a contract or may offer highly reduced terms.
Although, I would hate it if Evra leaves but I can understand where the club are coming from. He was a great servant to the club and this is one of the reasons I support MUFC. We don't treat players like inanimate assets.
3m per year over two years is 6m in total. That is net wage. Before tax that is around 12m. Plus 3m transfer fee is 15m.
Bravo, but it wasn't so difficoult
But probably Juve will pay even more, commissions + other taxes
It's an important investment for a 33 yo, they wanted him really hard.
I dont see it happening, we gave him one year extension and he should stay for one year in new era to mentor Shaw, If we loos Evra we will have to go for another leftback which wouldnt be a wise move, I hope we wont go for Blind, hes massively overrated neither good as LB nor as CM/CDM for the team of our format..
I would only let Pat go if he is a catalyst for Vidal move. We should still be paying over 40m I guess because Evra isnt worth more than 3-4m (well buttner went for 5-6m who is 17-23times worse than pat so who knows after all)
Imagine Reece James stepping up and being our Seamus Coleman
I would only let Pat go if he is a catalyst for Vidal move. We should still be paying over 40m I guess because Evra isnt worth more than 3-4m (well buttner went for 5-6m who is 17-23times worse than pat so who knows after all)
Imagine Reece James stepping up and being our Seamus Coleman
the same as Ross mcCormack then
Same as Garay and McCormack.
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