European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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Rightnr said:
Eh?!?! The only positive for us as a club from your post was that we'll invest more. I basically explained why I thought that was a moot point.

Playing devil's advocate requires some actual realistic arguments. You saying we'll invest more when this club has been going down the proverbial capitalism drain for 15 years under these leeches makes me question whether you are just saying things to look unbiased.
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I haven't said we will invest more. If you put down this insistence on fighting anything that doesn't immediately and simply agree with you then you can see I've said we will continue to be invested in, not as much as we know we should. We did spend 80 million quid on a defender. That's not pitiful investment. We won't just be tossed aside and see zero is my point. We will still sign players, we will pay pretty jig ages and we will probably pay some pretty hefty transfer fees.

For the last time. No, probably not as much as we should do, I'm not fighting you on that. I just think it's over dramatic to suggest we'll essentially be left to rot.
 
Finally a reason to be interested in football again, following this clusterfeck of a novel .

Been some years since I've seen a full game anyway.
 
I'm not a fan a fan of government interference but I'd be happy for the UK to do something crazy/illegal that facks this up and at least puts it into court for years.
 
JSArsenal said:
Why are so many people dumping on Arsenal? We've won like 4 FA cups in 7 years and been to a Europa League final. We're hardly San Marino.

What's the cut off point and criteria? IF it's the last 5 years and based on footballing performance like some are arguing then I can't tell you how United got an invite. If it's baed on factors outside of the pitch like club size, fan support and all the rest of it, then you can't really question our inclusion.
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History over merit eh?
 
I really wonder how other clubs perceive this. What are Leicester thinking? Wolves? Everton? Leeds?

What are Napoli & Roma thinking?
What are Sevilla thinking?
 
Withnail said:
Do you have a source for this?
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There were some statements in tweets upthread, can't find them right now. Obviously things are moving quite quickly but this is in line with what has been said.

I may be wrong but I've seen it mentioned.
 
JSArsenal said:
Why are so many people dumping on Arsenal? We've won like 4 FA cups in 7 years and been to a Europa League final. We're hardly San Marino.

What's the cut off point and criteria? IF it's the last 5 years and based on footballing performance like some are arguing then I can't tell you how United got an invite. If it's baed on factors outside of the pitch like club size, fan support and all the rest of it, then you can't really question our inclusion.
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Chill mate. Arsenal is ok. What everyone really wants to know is how the feck did spurs get in.
 
Fox outside the box said:
I haven't said we will invest more. If you put down this insistence on fighting anything that doesn't immediately and simply agree with you then you can see I've said we will continue to be invested in, not as much as we know we should. We did spend 80 million quid on a defender. That's not pitiful investment. We won't just be tossed aside and see zero is my point. We will still sign players, we will pay pretty jig ages and we will probably pay some pretty hefty transfer fees.

For the last time. No, probably not as much as we should do, I'm not fighting you on that. I just think it's over dramatic to suggest we'll essentially be left to rot.
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Not us, the sport. And that is my point.
 
Carolina Red said:
Bayern declined the invitation.
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Isn't there a rule in German football that the fans own 51% of the club so their owners can't make any decisions like this on their own? I remember the owner of Wolfsburg I believe did some fishy stuff and all 17 fanbases where chanting that he needed to die and all type of bad stuff and the league made him step down. Could be that I remember it wrong but TLDR the Germans got their values straight when it comes to football.
 
VorZakone said:
I really wonder how other clubs perceive this. What are Leicester thinking? Wolves? Everton? Leeds?

What are Napoli & Roma thinking?
What are Sevilla thinking?
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Probably about whether or not they can scream at a referee until it goes away.
 
AgentSmith said:
I’m genuinely baffled that there are people defending this idea or trying to portray it as a positive move. This is driven purely by corporate greed and cements the complete commodification of football. There’s not a single aspect of it that makes sense outside of the money and it will cause a massive rift within the sport.

It’s a league that you can’t be relegated from for fecks sake, how does that make sense?

Arsenal are 9th in the Premier League and haven’t even been in the Champions League for nearly 5 years. Yet they’re guaranteed to be in this new league every single season despite the fact that they’ll get dicked on repeatedly. Does anyone really enjoy San Marino being in the Euros qualifiers? Because that’s what Arsenal will be without ever having the threat of being relegated as a result.

And that’s just one minor part of the impracticalities of the format. The ethos behind it is fundamental issue; relentless greed. Do people really think if the clubs are willing to do this so brazenly that’ll be the end of it?
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its a shit idea. Its not even cut and run that any of the 6 english teams will always get in the champions league. All of them bar city have failed in recent times. You have to earn the right, and if leicester or west ham beat you to it thats the beauty of it. Its like a big two fingers up to the spirit of football and professional competition from entitled owners.

A quarter final with real madrid has to be earned with away ties in cold scandinavia or navigating(or not) a really difficult group draw with PSG andnRBL etc. Its part of a competition. Whats the point of playing them twice a year in this super league as a permanent fixture? Meaningless
 
Schneiderman said:
Exactly, and this is why the Premier League (hopefully) really will kick the teams out. It'd be completely unfair on the Fulhams and Newcastles trying to stay in the league, one plays against a full strength City and the other plays United's kids. Destroys the spirit of the competition. It'll be better for the league long term to kick them out.
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The remaining clubs may well get extra/new fans too.
 
JSArsenal said:
Why are so many people dumping on Arsenal? We've won like 4 FA cups in 7 years and been to a Europa League final. We're hardly San Marino.

What's the cut off point and criteria? IF it's the last 5 years and based on footballing performance like some are arguing then I can't tell you how United got an invite. If it's baed on factors outside of the pitch like club size, fan support and all the rest of it, then you can't really question our inclusion.
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Because you have no business being involved in an elite european competition. As your league form shows. Why should they get a guaranteed place rather than objectively better teams like Leicester, West Ham or Everton
 
the overreaction by Twitter and football purists would've reacted the same when the Premier League was formed (with cheerleaders) but nobody now thinks that was a bad idea!? So maybe just maybe people should give it a chance.. the same people moaning about it and saying they will stop supporting the club will STILL watch it guaranteed! Hypocrites!
 
caid said:
Because you have no business being involved in an elite european competition. As your league form shows. Why should they get a guaranteed place rather than objectively better teams like Leicester, West Ham or Everton
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Disagree. This is based on how big they are. If anything, City is the odd man out of all those clubs. City and Spurs.
 
caid said:
Because you have no business being involved in an elite european competition. As your league form shows. Why should they get a guaranteed place rather than objectively better teams like Leicester, West Ham or Everton
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It's obviously not about footballing ability. Arsenal are a bigger team than the ones you mention.
 
cyberman said:
Better than the 1 super team league we have today?
Id love to see the City apologists in the media who attack this get called out on it. If 6 Citys is terrible for the league then 1 is as well
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i agree. Its a farce. State owned football clubs. I couldnt believe that psg and city got to ignore ffp, then have their bans overturned and pay a tiny fine. Kills the game.

at the same time you have solvent clubs albeit with ‘debts’ propped up by owners cash in the football league placed under embargos, docked points and relegated for breaking ffp rules.
 
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