Exactly. All these clubs have hundreds of years of history, the ESL dilutes all of that.
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You think City and PSG would agree to that?
Yeah I'm sure every young player dreams of bombing out of a major tournament at the group stage and being blamed for the loss while people burn effigies of them in the street
Think it is supposed to be an alternative to the supposed restructure of the CL. The big clubs want more money, not have it shared out to even more clubs. The problem then starts if said clubs are chucked out of their own league. It's a mess.
Haaland was offered £70,000 a week more by Utd apparently (allegedly)
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ected-deal-wage-salary-contract-a9264226.html
In big parts due to their faults, their solutions is a big treason to their faithful fans.
Tottenham out of all teams got an invite for this and they are a nothing club.
I hear you but then a few years ago I (and presumably Barcelona) never thought I'd see a player being bought for £200m and yet PSG paid that for Neymar.
PSG refused to join, City have agreed
Ehh, history is history. Did we lose any when the PL was formed?
This is purely for the moneybags. They would get everything their own way. It’s a shambles and I cannot believe that clubs have voted in favour of it.
Why are the Glazers getting all the shit for this?
Not the only ones.Never hear the media criticizing FSG.
No, it's an answer to UEFAs new Champions League vision from 2024.
And what about UEFA’s reformed Champions League? UEFA wants a new format for the Champions League from 2024, with one 36-team league replacing the current group stage, where every team plays 10 matches. This is called the ‘Swiss model’. Under the proposed format, by the time winner has lifted the European Cup, the competition will have produced 100 new games, and the finalists will have played at least 17 matches, four more than under the current system. Accommodating four additional games in the autumn will be a challenge for most national leagues, however, including in England, where the Carabao Cup would be under threat. Three of the four extra Champions League places would meanwhile go to clubs based on past performance in Europe, using the UEFA coefficient ranking system
Totally this! I feel it’s lazy for the media to blame the clubs associating to create the ESL while overlooking the total negligence and greed on the part of UEFA and some national leagues which created the environment for this.
I lay the full blame for this mess firmly at the foot of the corrupt bureaucrats at UEFA/FIFA/national leagues. The latest case in point being the announced (completely pointless) change in format of the CL. Permitting the takeovers of clubs which destroyed the ecosystem of the football landscape was always going to end in tears for everyone, and I mean everyone.
You'd think but who knows.
And even then it's a non competitive league. Tells you all you need to know why they don't want to join this super league...
Think it will be based on fan base and City's is growing. They want the TV audience.
Sounds like a mess. I like the current structure and CL as it is. 64 teams in CL would be fine too if they want to improve it, but group stage would get more boring potentially.
He never has, to be fair.
No it doesn't. Go back and look at the CL group stage 2 from the 00's. It was the pinnacle of elite football:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–01_UEFA_Champions_League_second_group_stage#
Aye but it has always peed me off that Real were able to afford to take Ronaldo off us because they got far more money from the La Liga tv rights than we were..and it continues. Talk about Financial Fair play? There has never been any when Real.and Barca get half the Tv revenues and the rest of La Liga including Atletico share the rest, while in the Prem all the clubs get an equal share. So there is no differential between what Burnley get and what United get. Who wants to watch Burnley?
If City agreed to join then there’s no way there’s an enforceable spending cap. Not after the way they took the piss with FFP.
Charming. At least we aren't a plastic club.
The same reason as Spurs and Arsenal. TV ratings. Obviously.
Significant financial advantage, yes. But also significant financial mismanagement. The greed of these clubs is sickening.
For people that missed it, this is where it comes from it's a long standing issue. This sentence echoes what the G-14, ECA and the cartel of top clubs have been doing for more than 20 years.
"treason", bloody hell. I think so many fans are getting too emotional, they want it to replace the CL, we've replaced the old EC in my time, we've been banned from it for years too.
People hate change, but makes no mistake, the takeovers of PSG and City have forced this.
Beckham, Ronaldo, Rooney. Scape goats for poorly managed teams that the media convinced everyone would win the World Cup.You what?
Of course he did, he's probably the footballer whose benefitted most from Sky's dominance.
I must have missed Gary ripping Sky a new one over their above inflation price increases at the time of pandemic.
Have you forgotten UEFA-gate?
Of course it is, once Oil rich countries were allowed to own football clubs this was inevitable.
Bang on.
State run clubs
£100 match tickets
£100m players
Subscription viewing...
yet the PL and FIFA are victims....feck em.
That's not why they were able to take Ronaldo, it's because he wanted to leave.
He's fecking shill. Sully you've made more informative posts in 12 months than Ducker and Ogden have did in years. Last time Ogden got something right was when he said that United wanted Lukaku on Phill Brown's show. I mean he's a total fecking shill. It would be awkward if you were that ugly looking creature.