Would have been more supportive of it had more European clubs been involved, because as things stands half our games will be other premier league teams.
European Super League
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Yep. There have been a lot of comparisons with American sports but they have salary caps which are manageable so everyone basically spends up to them while the shit teams get high draft picks to become competitive eventually, in this the dregs will likely just stay the dregs unless their owners have a complete character transformation.
I remember the old division 1 to PL change. As 3pm sat ko’s slowly went. But at least it was a re brand where there was still promotion and relegation to and from the championship and money trickled down. This is an abomination. A big rich boys club. All money kept inside. Who wants to watch a pre selected league with no relegation that pays millionaire players and funds billionaire owners. Rivalries need to be put aside to try and stop this. A sad day if it’s true
It has one million percent accelerated. How could juventus, real madrid or Barcelona catch city and psg from here. Milan clubs? Don't even think about it. Plenty of people have been saying for years that what city and psg are doing isn't just 'the same' as every other big club. Years into each project that has been laid bare
Think FFP has already been scrapped completely.
wasnt the Premier League formed by teams who didnt want to be part of the football league? What was the reaction like back then when it happened?
the biggest benefactors to the PL being formed were sky too. The cheek of Neville and his buddies sitting there talking about greed.
the biggest benefactors to the PL being formed were sky too. The cheek of Neville and his buddies sitting there talking about greed.
Someone has to finish bottom?This faux outrage is comical.
They haven't said that. I seriously don't understand the outcry from fans and domestic leagues. Nothing changes from the existing format and the small clubs would still get their fair share of money like they are getting now. So what exactly is the issue here if 14 clubs decides to play in an additional tournament?
Imagine just having this awful super league to watch with most likely meaningless friendlies in between. Pure shite.
Tottenham and arsenal have no business in a European super league. Ffs.
If City are then it must only be going off the lsst 10 years - if that's the case Leicester deserve it too.
If City are then it must only be going off the lsst 10 years - if that's the case Leicester deserve it too.
The revenue United and the other teams bring the PL is worth too much to be banning teams. That's the reason their upset anyway, they're worried a super league will stop the PL from being as popular as it currently is
Money, money, money that's all this is about.
I've no interest in it, there's very little entertainment value in football now, when you consider what it costs to watch or go to games. This will just price out or disinterest most fans even more and in turn the next generation will have dam all interest.
TV pundits etc. Will all have a moan about it, but when it comes down to it, if it goes ahead. The companies they work for will be bidding for broadcast rights. And they will all be sitting there talking the usual crap about the games they just watched.
I've no interest in it, there's very little entertainment value in football now, when you consider what it costs to watch or go to games. This will just price out or disinterest most fans even more and in turn the next generation will have dam all interest.
TV pundits etc. Will all have a moan about it, but when it comes down to it, if it goes ahead. The companies they work for will be bidding for broadcast rights. And they will all be sitting there talking the usual crap about the games they just watched.
But most sponsors and random 'fans' want Real x Juve or Arsenal x Barca every week instead of Chelsea x Malmo or Lokomotiv x Pool.
Your faux opinion is comical.
1 CL appearance total?
Well you will presumably get more prize money from getting further in the competition or winning it. Same as any other competition.
Give it enough time and I'm afraid you'll understand. What UEFA want is to allow as much money as possible come into football but have the biggest revenue makers accept it. They want a 'fairness' that can allow Man City to have a better bench than Arsenal do a first team but still take in all the revenue from Arsenal fans anyway. They want a 'fairness' that is a European 'Champions' league that gives multiple places to big revenue leagues that means that the actual champions from Scotland, Ireland, etc will never be able to make it to the competition proper. They want a 'fairness' that suits only them. The only reason that UEFA care about this is because they stand to lose revenue. If this was Rangers and Dundalk and other small clubs, who are champions, from small nations planning this UEFA wouldn't give a shit.
Well then maybe UEFA should have done more to stop UAE and Qatar from making a joke out of football. Maybe they should have stopped the likes of Leeds, Wigan, us and Liverpool from being taken over by obvious leeches and straddled with huge debts. They created this shit and it is their fault. I hate the super league idea but I simply don't blame the clubs I blame UEFA, the FA and the other league authorities.
CL football is dead, pret
Yeah right - and there are courts who can block such thing happening.
The Champions league hasn't been that for years. Since they started letting shite teams from all of Europe in because they won their league
That's it right there, the acceleration of that domination is there for all to see, and it should be blindingly obvious to everyone that no single football can compete with an oil rich state, it's fecking preposterous. So many heads buried in the sand regarding City's (and later PSG's) takeovers and where that was ultimately leading us.
Completely agreed. The non oil clubs have been cornered and they're using their brand to run with with idea.
I get that 100% no one would really watch the Prem, if it were to go ahead (and to be honest I think it will, there'll be some sort of money negotiation going on) then the excitement would be watching who gets into the ESL each year as there is still promotion and relegation to that league. Though the Big 6 would be permanent members of the league. Maybe they're trying to scare the big teams off?
Let's all remember this one very fact the Premier League itself was/is a breakaway league from the old league system! This is kinda like history repeating itself.
Not sure but I did read UEFA were considering it.
The PL would loose so much on the TV deals, that probably every club would go bankrupt as they would not be able to pay wages to the players and they would not have anyone to sell the players.
People probably made a massive outrage over that too.
I can’t get my head around how transfers would work. I can see the PL teams not having as much money to spend (less tv money, gate receipts etc) and would expect them to have players of a lower level to the super league teams, not worthy of buying and if they were hardly millions worth, so the super teams will just be buying off each other?
Probably would be ok for five years or so but then I can see quality dropping of national leagues a lot and the novelty of a league of 12 wearing off fast
Probably would be ok for five years or so but then I can see quality dropping of national leagues a lot and the novelty of a league of 12 wearing off fast
I mean with the increase of 36 teams, it is somewhat diluted and would just get worse. This whole swiss model has sounded iffy to me, with UEFA killing the concept of what made the CL great.
The only way to protect that revenue for the PL and other European leagues is to kill the superleague as soon as possible.
If the Superleague becomes a thing that's it for the top 5 leagues, no coming back, it's an NBA vs DLeague or whatever you want to call them situation, no one will tune to watch Burnley vs Villa or Sampdoria vs Torino when there's a league with the best teams in the world.
Do you think Haaland or Sancho would be happy about not being able to represent their national teams?
I'm sure clubs like Leicester can apply for membership to this new league.
Might be an unpopular opinion but I am not against it. We do not have all the details yet so I would reserve judgement but to me Champions League is an extremely boring competition at this point. There are 5-6 teams that are reaching every SF and 3-4 that win the competition almost all the time. Its completely predictable. Now they are trying to expand CL with even more pointless teams creating even more pointless games.
I don't yet know if superleague also has the potential to become predictable but one can see why CL is a little bit outdated, prestigious though it certainly is.
I don't yet know if superleague also has the potential to become predictable but one can see why CL is a little bit outdated, prestigious though it certainly is.
There’s no talk of leaving the domestic leagues right?
That doesn't matter when Arsenal has more fans than Everton+Leicester+Wolves combined. People who like to watch a game here and there want the biggest brands playing each other every week. It's like with movies. A lot of people 'love' movies but when they have to choose they always choose popular brands, famous actors even when they could watch a better low-budget movie made by unknowns.
Come out of it mate. It's not going to happen. UEFA can't ban players representing the countries for non-sporting reasons.
How does the domestic league function with the incentive of qualifying for a CL place neutered?
Take this season for example, where Leicester and West Ham have currently ousted Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal for CL places. Under a Super League system those teams have a guaranteed spot. So what reward do West Ham and Leicester get for being the better teams in that scenario? One of them might get a super league place? But given they're one of the few teams who have a chance of dropping out of that league next year, they have less opportunity to consolidate that position and therefore less incentive to invest upon achieving it.
Hardly a scenario that makes for a thrilling league.
Course to even question it years ago meant you were just bitter.
Probably still happier then having their wages reduced to a third or probably more.
There are talks about being thrown out of them.
Absolutely cornered due to UEFA/The FA allowing it to happen and being utterly powerless to implement any kind of brake on it. The annual revenue of a club like Real Madrid is pocket change for the U.A.E state.