I am clearly not comparing the sports directly but darts was an example of a major breakaway competition. Both have major TV rights and sponsorships (football obviously bigger before you suggest I am saying they are the same). The breakaway resulted in a far better product that fans preferred in the end. Just looking at the other side of the argument.
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By that logic why do we bother buying players now? For the £5 million CL winners prize? The Glazers have invested more money in the last few years than United have ever had
You can't actually be this dumb?
We buy players now so we can qualify for the Champions League and the Glazers can get paid.
As a representative of the ECA with Agnelli...
"Yeah I saw it but only because a mate Whatsapped me the video".
Yeah alright, course you did...
You are just projecting. You urself know that youre a sheep, so you think we all are.
We will be playing big teams every week, the sponsors will get their exposure, while if the fans are willing to stick with the club after this shit idea then I imagine they will regardless of whether we're 6th or 10th in a group. I'm baffled by the idea that people think this will make the likes of us and Arsenal more competitive, this ensures the revenue regardless of whether we are or not and so the best sides will more clearly be those whose ownerships are more interested in success than just money (i.e. those with an ego like Perez or those using their clubs for sports washing like City's owners) because the owners interested primarily in money don't have to worry about investing to make the top 4.
From the Athletic for those that haven't read the details yet:
And people are fine with this? They’re a fecking cartel. They’re ruining international football as it is with their pointless national league shite. And as I’ve said before - if it’s a choice between earning millions or international football I don’t think FIFA are winning that argument. Then see how the World Cup looks without 200 of the best players around.
They were invited.
If this happens then what’s helge point of us being in the PL?
That’s just a avenue to qualify for the CL so wouldn’t it be pointless to play?
That’s just a avenue to qualify for the CL so wouldn’t it be pointless to play?
With no jeopardy? You may be just one of the handful of fans that would find this appealing week in, week out. Would you be prepared to travel to Kuwait to watch the games? Just asking?
Yeah but they're saying that the PL, La Liga & Serie A will ban the teams from playing in the super league - in which case the teams may threaten to (or actually) leave their domestic leagues in order to play in the super league.
I prefer playing Burnley or Newcastle to win the Premier fecking League than to play Real and win this shit competition.
well, I think the plan was that we'd still be playing Burnley etc. but European games would only be against the clubs with the biggest draw.
I am against the idea, but UEFA need to be fairer on the clubs that make their competitions profitable than they are planning on being, and the plan to ban any clubs & players that join is abusive, anti-competitive and should be met with anger from fans rather than cheered.
This all looks like a leverage move to me. No way we are leaving UEFA and joining a rebel league like World Series Cricket in 1978. The clubs are just trying to squeeze more money from UEFA
I can imagine it now , we check to see what’s on the tv for the night , Utd at home to Barca or Antiques Roadshow. You’ll be watching it and so will everyone else.
(I’m not saying I agree with this breakaway FYI)
I know it’s foreign to us right now but it was nice to win
Honestly, as much as I hate them, I do understand them. FIFA and UEFA on the other hands are bureaucrats who have little actual stake in the game and are rife with corruption.
So yeah, I'd rather football be run by the owners of the major clubs rather than corrupt third parties.
so if the premier league doesnt approve them joining the new super league can the clubs use the loophole and register all the players for the 2nd team? rule says that clubs cant play their senior mens first team in any competition other than uefa ones. If United register the first team as the reserves for example could this circumvent the rule?
Not strictly true.
if the PL don’t allow it, and the clubs want to pursue it, they will need to leave the PL. That’s the high stakes game of poker we are playing.
I’m sure there will be a compromise. Perhaps a number of European super leagues with promotion/ relegation? This is just the start, and the breakaway will want to recruit more teams. You can se the likes of Celtic and Rangers gobbling this up and wanting to jump on board ASAP.
the upshot could be the removal of UEFA from club competition.
there’s no way FIFA are banning players from these clubs from international matches, that’s a joke of a threat.
two of the most corrupt organisations in world sport, UEFA and FIFA trying to hold shit tighter and throwing accusations about money and greed around. Bloody ironic.
Im not for this, but if it brings down UEFA and/ or FIFA that’s no bad thing. Something will rise from the ashes.
Thank you Man City. Thank you PSG. Thank you every sad mental gymnast who dismissed the negative impact of their owners on the game as nothing more than bitterness. Their absolutely disgracefully sustained petrodollar business model has rattled every other greedy fuc* running a club these days. Every single governing body and fan who idled by and said nothing while city ruined the Premier league doesn't have a leg to stand on now. Sky Sports moaning about fairness? Tough shit you said nothing when it lined your pockets. Uefa? Likewise.
Needless to say if this wrestlemania shit show goes ahead I'll no longer watch.
Needless to say if this wrestlemania shit show goes ahead I'll no longer watch.
Surely a wind up
Nine minute video containing Gary Neville's reaction
This reminds me of the scene in Step Brothers where the two lads beg their parents to let them turn their beds into bunk beds, and then blame them for letting them do it when it all goes wrong.
We all knew the Glazers were wrong 'uns right from the start. I honestly wouldn't be shocked to learn them, Kronke and the Liverpool shower had this planned before they ever even bought the clubs.
We all stood by and let it happen, not just the Premier League.
How about trying to win the PL?
PSG trying to get involved with the plans
"But you let in City"
ah right, thanks for both your posts
Me, I don't particularly care. I'll probably make fun of it more than feel anything much. We'll very likely be watching algorithms play each other in 10-20 years anyways. But I can see how local fans, people in/from/ties to Manchester getting upset about this. Little bit of history being lost with these little "improvements"
£100, I'll make you that genuine bet today that by the end of the 2024 season, if you haven't watched 2 full games of super league the money is all yours. Put your money where you mouth is. I'll book mark the post and follow all your posts from this point on if you agreeOh just realized that clubs like PSG or Bayern would be happy with status quo where no one challenges them ever. So they never need to struggle to get into CL spots and all.
I don't think so, as being English champions must always be the top priority. Only a change that removes clubs from the Premier League would be completely unacceptable for me. The structure of European competitions is secondary, though I agree that any closed shop in Europe would be worthless.
Though there is something going on, PSG aren't out for no reason same with Lyon, Marseille, Dortmund and Bayern.
This in a nut shell. I fecking despise the FA and UEFA for allowing a leveraged buy-out of United and having zero issue allowing two of the wealthiest states on the planet to fecking annihilate the game as we know it. And these arsewipes will now blame others for what THEY created.
Unfortunately football is simply escapeism and entertainment. Everything tribal is PR to make you spend money on your team.
Well as is apparent, no one is fine with any of it. The cynical side of me agrees with everything you’ve said; the corruption within FIFA and. UEFA has brought us here.
Feel free to do this with several posters. You should do a signup if you're so convinced we'd all fall in line. You'd make thousands mate.
Can't you see that your owner is partly responsible for this happening?
When you have Middle Eastern countries buying up small clubs in PSG n City and upsetting the status quo of elite football you're going to get a lot of unhappy major clubs.
Abramovich was the light the ignited the fuse. The UAE n Qatar have added the oil to the fire literally.
Sign me up to this. Won't touch it.
I think this instantly devalues the PL.
Well Bayern are majority fan owned so are fortunate not to be at the whims of soulless corporate greed.
The fact that PSG haven't signed up is interesting.
I think the clubs involved in this initiative know it's an unlikely starter. I think they're looking to put pressure on their respective leagues to award those who have the biggest draw the most (not altogether unreasonable, if a little dodgy) and UEFA who are seemingly wanting to send every halfway decent side in Europe to the the utter pits of the continent, presumably due to dodgy Azerbaijani leagues/clubs lining their pockets.