You can’t say if you don’t want to watch it then don’t, and then say everyone will.
If we leave the Premier League, I won’t watch any United matches or any European Super League matches and I bet i’m not on my own.European Super League
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If we leave the Premier League, I won’t watch any United matches or any European Super League matches and I bet i’m not on my own.You think we'll be going for any of those players when the Glazers don't have to worry about qualifying for the big bucks league each year?
You are totally deluded if so.
Sadly, I cannot support the club if the only competition they participate in is to be this glittering morning star of a slap into the jowels of a jaded population.
Yes. German clubs are usually fan owned and controlled, which is great.
PL statement condemning Super League plans: “The Premier League condemns any proposal that attacks the principles of open competition and sporting merit which are at the heart of the domestic and European football pyramid.”
Yet these bunch of hypocrites have allowed Chelsea and City to obliterate the integrity of their competition for the last 15-16 years
Yet these bunch of hypocrites have allowed Chelsea and City to obliterate the integrity of their competition for the last 15-16 years
Think there is bit of a difference between darts and football to be fair, and I do like my darts. If this breakaway means leaving the premier league then i am totally against it, and will stop following the club. If it is instead of the champions league then i couldnt really care less to be honest. Champions league was ruined years ago when they started to allow 2nd, 3rd and 4th place teams in for television rights.
The big 3 clubs in Spain have spent a fortune in recent years (Barcelona have spent over 800m euro on signings in the last 4 years as well as having the highest paid player in the world, Atletico over 500m in the same time in addition to having the highest paid manager and Real Madrid spent over 350m in the summer of 2019 alone) as have Juventus. The 2 Milan clubs haven't to the same extent due to issues with their ownership while Liverpool have invested incredibly smartly for the most part and therefore have been able to win major trophies anyway.
So presumably based on the 12 clubs involved and that 7 of them have spent a lot of money, the idea is that Stan Kroenke and Daniel Levy are really going to start splashing the cash when they are guaranteed of the vast majority of their revenue regardless of where the finish?
Ah right. Silly me. We lost to Istanbul this season so they’re clearly better than us.
You all do know this is just a CL replacement right? Not a breakaway from the PL
This, plus the issue with oil clubs already having inflated the expenditures of other clubs, eating into their revenues in part due to the rubbish FFP implementation.
Really? Football being compared to darts?
PSG turning it down, they’re not daft, it’s a sure fire CL trophy for them
Mate the biggest issue is that the PL allowed it happen. Why allow this shit to happen and then cry foul at the consequences? The PL should have stepped in and said that no way could we be bought and have that debt put on the club. Now what we have is the PL calling 'fair play'. These problems were created by the likes of PL and UEFA alone and no one else. "Wow scumbag owners who only care abut themselves are acting in a selfish way"! The time to stop this was years ago but they did nothing and now this is the result.
By the way we are already the relative bottom feeders in the PL now anyway.
Come on now, you know that was never how the competition was meant to work.
I think it comes down to fan ownership. German supporter clubs have a controlling interest in their clubs which is enshrined in law.
Another thing... Yesterday I watched Newcastle vs West Ham... Because it had stakes at either end. Like feck am I going to watch 16th place Arsenal play 12th place Milan or whatever it'll be, what's the incentive?
Suddenly, Chris Wood is the must have premium at 11.5mWe will be triple captaining Burnley and Palace players
Yes, we need to see the proposals and then what transpires from them, but there could be uproar from the support of all clubs involved.
We need big name players to keep the fans emptying their wallets for us and our sponsors.
By that logic why do we bother buying players now? For the £5 million CL winners prize? The Glazers have invested more money in the last few years than United have ever hadPSG turning it down, they’re not daft, it’s a sure fire CL trophy for them
Probably weren't invited given that the chairman is a UEFA board member, so politically sensitive to approach about it
Exactly this. It seems to escape the thick cnuts that the side about to win 3 of the last 4 Premier League titles is state owned. Absolute arswipes.
The tears of Arsenal fans getting battered by the Italian Arsenal
No, this has been happening for years and they keep coming back asking for more. If they want their super league then let them have it but it the mean time they can reap what they sow.
All of them are in the list of 12 clubs as founders of the new Super League.
And I don't think that Bayern would gain anything from that kind of league. This league and money makes more sense for teams who have to compete against "state" owned teams, where it's really very hard to do anything (the proof is there). Dortmund would probably gain something at least in Bundesliga. This would most suit Real and Barcelona.
How is what it was meant to be relevant? This is about what it is. I couldn’t give two shits if the CL dies - it’s been absolutely tedious for years. If it means UEFA lose a cash cow then even better. I’m waiting until I see how they ensure domestic competition isn’t undermined before joining in the hysteria.
So how does this work then? Would we still be in the PL? What happens to league placings, since we're not going to be in the CL?
Not surprised club owners are for this. Now they don't even have to invest to finish in top four places for that sweet CL money. Guaranteed money every year. feck the Glazers.
Not surprised club owners are for this. Now they don't even have to invest to finish in top four places for that sweet CL money. Guaranteed money every year. feck the Glazers.
I would love it if we said no. Integrity. I don't care about some fake league and I believe it is everything against what football is and was in this country. It is against open competition and have only one purpose. Make money. It has nothing to do with sport. I would love to se declaration of purpose for this league.
I don't watch ManUtd because of what players we sign. I watch because I've been fan for decades and decades. I rather have Phil Bardsley and Peter Crouch playing for us in Premier League then Sancho or Haaland in europa league. If that is the choice.
SuperLeague must be dream for people living in such sport culture (like NHL, NFL and so on) and for the young fans not having long history being supporter.
So this is it ? We're really going to announce it along side the other clubs in less than an hour ? When will it start ? Next year ? Is this really our last year playing in PL and CL ? I can't believe this.
I don’t believe that is accurate as the Premier League have to agree to let them compete, if they don’t (and they won’t) then Utd would have to leave the Premier League in order to take part.
I think the Champions League revamp is something different isn’t it? If Utd were to leave the premier league and champions league I would call it a day after 35 years.
Well UEFA are being backed into a corner to come up with a better counter proposal and yes, a restructuring of the CL may be a compromise but they’ve categorically stated that they’ll do everything to prevent it including banning players taking part in international competitions.
This will run and run
The plot thickens
There’s no way fifa an uefa will ban players playing in this super league from representing their countries, people watch the World Cup to see Messi , if FIFA have no Messi they don’t get sponsors and they don’t get viewers, this is just posturing from all sides, UEFA are scared, FIFA are scared and the domestic leagues are scared, mostly of a loss of revenue, the whole thing stinks of greed from all sides, it’s a perfect reflection of today’s game, I kind of want it to happen just to see the sh*t storm
First of all get off your high horse. I believe that you have a legitimate cause for concern here but you are diluting it by branding anyone who doesn’t agree with your world view as a “glory hunter”. It’s clear you don’t have an open mind so I have no hope that you would at least consider the contrary position. You don’t have to agree with it, just understand it.
Everything you just said is already happening and this is just the tailwind of that. Yes the transformation is slow but it is getting there. And when it does, the newly rich clubs like City, PSG, and Newcastle (if it happens) will be at the top of the pyramid relegating clubs like ours to feeder clubs.
Why are the club so desperate? It’s obvious we aren’t able to compete with these clubs already. The market has spoken and running a sustainable business in football is impossible as long as there is no FFP and financial doping is allowed. They can literally see a future where they struggle to get to CL places and fall behind because of the revenue shortfall. It’s not a future owners will accept will fully in the name of preserving football heritage. It’s a land grab .
Excellent matches every week. More interesting to see us playing Real and Barcelona than Burnley or Newcastle.
Why are Liverpool in it? If they’re including teams for historical reasons and what teams did 50 years ago, why not Notts County?
There is all kinds of speculation. Best case scenario, I hope you are right and it ends as a storm in a teacup. Domestic competition must not be touched.