They would be out of the Champions League, the current indication is they want to stay in the domestic competitions but the associations have said they would be excluded and in reality I suspect they wouldn't want to stay for long anyway but can't say that from the start.
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Can you please refrain from such vulgar language.
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UEFA want to expand the CL to include more clubs, which likely reduces the revenue for the existing big clubs.
UEFA have also completely failed to reign in oil money clubs thanks to their farcical FFP implementation, and this has hugely driven up costs for the non oil big clubs.
The big clubs have been talking of a breakaway continental tournament for a while now, to pressure UEFA into bending to their whims/drop the expansion ideas but UEFA haven't done it, so the big clubs have gone ahead with the breakaway league plans.
It's happening to Burnley now as well. Their owners done a Glazers and have out their debt on the club
Heart bleeds.
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Agreed, introducing relegation to American sports is the equivalent of removing it from European. Unfortunately that’s what happens when capitalism takes over the sport.
Absolutely, can you have a look at the first post then maybe?
If this is true I am disgusted. Very disappointed, especially with my club Arsenal and Liverpool!
Just plain wrong on so many levels.
Just plain wrong on so many levels.
Elvis is an admin. He's banned folk for far less.
Ya, this would end football for me in all honesty
The people for this, does the idea of being in a competition where you cannot be relegated and teams are there based on their brand rather than merit not sound farcical to you? Why would you even want to be part of that competition?
And I'm sorry, as nice as playing Madrid or Juventus is, I've grown up watching United go to Newcastle, Everton, Villa, West Ham, Forest and the rest and would rather do that. Travelling back from games in the car on some cold night but bouncing from the results. Give me that over watching a stream of United playing Barcalona in Dubai.
And I'm sorry, as nice as playing Madrid or Juventus is, I've grown up watching United go to Newcastle, Everton, Villa, West Ham, Forest and the rest and would rather do that. Travelling back from games in the car on some cold night but bouncing from the results. Give me that over watching a stream of United playing Barcalona in Dubai.
None of those would be commercially viable. There could be several games in the USA though.
If many top clubs sign up they'll basically be banning all the good players from their tournaments.
Imagine Burnley v Sampdoria in the Champions League
PSG, Bayern, Dortmund have all said no - still plenty of good clubs
It ensures a future for the club. I don’t like this either, but I’ve never liked the corruption of the game by money. At this point I’m long past giving a shit.
Well, great - am I overreacting, or just as things are clicking into place with Ole and the squad, are we now facing being kicked out of the Premier League, FA Cup and Champions League next season? This could be very messy.
This would also make it rather difficult to win the treble next season.
This would also make it rather difficult to win the treble next season.
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Oh look. A fecking coolest trophy in world football isn't enough for us.
There's a future for the club of regardless of whether we're in this or not, we're currently 2nd, we're not fighting relegation.
that’s down to bad owners. Any club owner overspending to try to get in the Prem with money they don’t have is a fecking idiot. It doesn’t have to be done. This is a choice.
It ends in spectacular failure a lot of the time too. Look how long Derby and Sheff Wed have been chasing this return to prem dream. They’re both in the bottom four of the championship heading to league one.
Since they were last in prem, the likes of Huddersfield, Reading, Bournemouth, Sheff Utd, Hull City have all come up on a fraction of their budgets. Three of those were literally in league one two/three years before they got into the prem.
This is some 1984 - freedom is slavery bullshit right here.
An organisation who has a monopoly over football, is using their power to try to blackmail private businesses into competing in their tournament rather than a non-sanctioned one and you want the government to prevent the competitor league by supporting punitive action?
Obviously under the current paradigm being part of the Champions League is something that no club would decline their qualification to, but surely clubs are free to turn this down and play whatever games they choose instead - if there is a market for the games to be televised they have a right to pursue it even if its a greedy move and not in line with a traditional view of football.
Something the moral guardian of the game PL has already pitched.
I am struggling to understand how any fans can be for this? I genuinely don't see anything positive or redeeming about it at all.
I missed the bit where Sky stopped relegation and promotion.
It might be novel, for a season, but would quickly become dull, like it does when you play the same team in the champions league a lot over a few years.
And there's no potential for excitement in the future, and in effect no risk with not winning enough games as you stay in the league.
All they need to do is add drafting, add quarters for more ads and we'd have a horrible American style set-up, which is based on entertainment rather than anything actually mattering about it.
I've always felt a full league set up was the inevitable evolution of the CL, with a top 4 play off for the trophy. Not that I'd want that but these top clubs are the ones that generate the money and so therefore want as many guaranteed games as they can get to ensure the money stays with them.
I imagine this announcement is mostly posturing and will eventually see a compromise which panders to the big boys
Bigger groups with less knockouts probably.
This threat has been there for decades, it will come eventually I feel but most likely with the collaboration of UEFA/FIFA
I imagine this announcement is mostly posturing and will eventually see a compromise which panders to the big boys
Bigger groups with less knockouts probably.
This threat has been there for decades, it will come eventually I feel but most likely with the collaboration of UEFA/FIFA
I hope it doesn’t go ahead, but if it does, I really hope we don’t have to leave the English league.
They think playing other rich teams every week is better than clubs with less money, because you know more money = better.[/QUOTE]
A league that contains the best players on the planet playing against each other on a weekly basis. That’s the positive. The downside is it may undermine the domestic league and integrity of competition with its closed shop nature.
I could not be more dissapointed in the club than I am at this point. And by the club I mean the board who went for this.
It doesn't undermine it, it kills it. There's no integrity in what's being suggested.
Strange way of writing destroy football as we know it.
Not a fan of the super league idea.
But UEFA, Premier League etc crying over greed is shameless hypocrisy when they've been ripping fans off for decades now.
It's just one bunch of greedy cnuts moaning about another bunch of greedy cnuts.
And I also see Sky getting their pundits in on the act too, shameless.
There are genuine reasons to object against the idea but they shouldn't be moaning about the money.
But UEFA, Premier League etc crying over greed is shameless hypocrisy when they've been ripping fans off for decades now.
It's just one bunch of greedy cnuts moaning about another bunch of greedy cnuts.
And I also see Sky getting their pundits in on the act too, shameless.
There are genuine reasons to object against the idea but they shouldn't be moaning about the money.
We need to see the detail. I think there’s a way to do it which keeps domestic competition alive. There has to be a route into it for others.
Yeah this is it for me. We are lucky in that we are a huge club but even when you look at how the PL allowed the Glazer's come in a straddle us with their debt accrued from buying us is disgusting. I mean Liverpool (the joint most successful English team of all time) came close to bankruptcy. The likes of Leeds and Wigan paid the price and the PL didn't do jack shit about it. They talk about 'fair play' but they have allowed so many clubs be taken over by predatory owners.
Now they scream about fairness while showing clips of that Aguero goal, with no mention of the murderous regime that funded that shit. It's all a bit like Ted Bundy preaching about ethics to Ed Gein overall.
Arsenal are 9th in the League. How is it the best players.
It destroys the CL as we know it - let’s not be over dramatic shall we?
We can’t have and won’t be allowed to have both mate. If your chances of playing in international tournaments is jeopardised, I’m just wondering what the choice is going to be