Programme about this on BBC1 now.
European Super League
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Good luck, Super League heroes.
They'll almost certainly win the ECJ case.
I doubt league will fly anyway though.
Once the new CL format is in and if / when financial situation gets really bad we might see some similar ideas again.
I doubt league will fly anyway though.
Once the new CL format is in and if / when financial situation gets really bad we might see some similar ideas again.
I really doubt it. Banning them will just give them the impetus to do their own thing for a season, maybe a league involving them, and the best South American teams.
UEFA are spineless, I doubt any punishment they get will be much worse then what the English clubs received.
hey guys wanna ask the british fans here that rioted against Super League!
How come you see the SL as attack to your domestic competition? Thats I don't understand at all!
As they said nationals league will stand as core of eu football so Premier League will be untouched like Serie A or la Liga.
The ESL is meant to replace Champions League nothing more nothing less.
With core objective to get a bigger share of the cake. If UEFA gets 100 from sponsors but gives back to clubs only 30 that's the lying problem that lead spanish and italian clubs to unite in it.
Same goes for english clubs.
It's not like Premier League or Super League.
I think you guys got mistaken by the similiar name and many thought it was meant to replace your domestic league XD
So I'm honestly asking why against?
I mean we don't know the format but I agree I wouldn't like a NBA style CL only on invite.
They should have ups and down to make it more interesting.
There are many ways to make it better than CL.
Instead CL new format they just passed to start in 2024 it's even worse than current format.
Anyway italians and spanish clubs are in economic disaster thanks to pandemy and mismanagement so they really can't go on.
Luckly for you guys EPL get 7billions/year meanwhile Liga get 2b and Serie A even less.
So unlike you we can't really philosophize about it or not.
It's do or die
How come you see the SL as attack to your domestic competition? Thats I don't understand at all!
As they said nationals league will stand as core of eu football so Premier League will be untouched like Serie A or la Liga.
The ESL is meant to replace Champions League nothing more nothing less.
With core objective to get a bigger share of the cake. If UEFA gets 100 from sponsors but gives back to clubs only 30 that's the lying problem that lead spanish and italian clubs to unite in it.
Same goes for english clubs.
It's not like Premier League or Super League.
I think you guys got mistaken by the similiar name and many thought it was meant to replace your domestic league XD
So I'm honestly asking why against?
I mean we don't know the format but I agree I wouldn't like a NBA style CL only on invite.
They should have ups and down to make it more interesting.
There are many ways to make it better than CL.
Instead CL new format they just passed to start in 2024 it's even worse than current format.
Anyway italians and spanish clubs are in economic disaster thanks to pandemy and mismanagement so they really can't go on.
Luckly for you guys EPL get 7billions/year meanwhile Liga get 2b and Serie A even less.
So unlike you we can't really philosophize about it or not.
It's do or die
This league doesn't make sense , no Relegation and the same teams over and over again. It literally kills the domestic league. What's the point finishing in the top 4 when it doesn't matter anymore ?
Also there was corrupt things in the league like salary Cap based on Revenue. Like everyone knows that Barca and Real have the highest Revenue , so it was a protection against PSG City. The big clubs just wanted the money and leave all small clubs in the bin
These cnuts don't even have to pay a fine like the other 9.
Suspending the proceedings is ridiculous. This is only going to give those 3 clubs even more of an impetus to push their agenda. I guess UEFA don't want to distract from the Euros, so hopefully, we see them proceed after the tournament's over.
If my family and my friend family want to play football in my back yard do I need to take UEFA permission .
Unless you are in some country where you need permission to piss also
Unless you are in some country where you need permission to piss also
Also to sum up the 9 clubs, I mean brave 9 clubs punished where remain three cannot be punished ..
UEFA knows perfectly well that if this ends up in European courts, there is no telling what it could end up with.
The best bet for them is to let the national federations punish internally and feck the 3 rebels over by allowing the state owned clubs to have unlimited spending.
I also thought about domestic punishment, but if they can't punish them in one way, can they in the other?
I am fine with three clubs not being punished. They had the backbone and audacity to stick behind their ridiculous decision.
Backing out when shit gets real is a coward mentality one we should not be teaching our kids.
Backing out when shit gets real is a coward mentality one we should not be teaching our kids.
Ceferin is just another suit, a mr Nobody representing no one in footballing terms, and his personal vendetta against that Agnelli snake will make his demise very soon.
If your family and your friend's family are affiliated to UEFA, have legal binding contracts with UEFA concerning your participation in UEFA tournaments and recieve huge amounts of money every year from UEFA as part of those deals then yes, they might wanna check if you're not screwing them over or planning to.
But if that's not the case, I think you have nothing to worry
So we should teach them to persevere in greed, incompetence, not admitting a mistake and escalating/litigating until hell breaks loose? I think that didn't work out well in US politics.
Before UEFA started criticising the superleague a court in madrid had already given a legal protection , it is subjudice and UEFA is gross contempt of court order
In US politics contempt of court in severely punishable and political not tolerated
Why did you think UEFA consumed it ego and suspended the action because it has not legal stand it is Privity to whole super league affair
I am a supporter of free whole and strong suggest that every ckub at same level playing field as others and oil clubs cannot just buy the expensive toys and literally buy the tournament or league before criticising super league just introspect why did we arrive at this juncture
I love manunited because it is not own by any sugar daddy and only club which own it owner I mean debt of owner is on it shoulder
So you must believe that it should have gone ahead. Why?
Damn! I hadn't thought about kind of punishmentDoesn't Tebas choose the referees in La Liga?
Joan Laporta (FC Barcelona president): "Liverpool and Manchester United were the real founders of the Super League."
Joan Laporta (FC Barcelona president): "The Super League project is alive."
Joan Laporta (Barca President): "Liverpool and Manchester United have still not paid the compensation for leaving.”
Joan Laporta (FC Barcelona): "As soon as we receive the green light from the court, we will create the greatest competition in the world of sports, and everyone will want to join us."
Joan Laporta (FC Barcelona president): "The Super League project is alive."
Joan Laporta (Barca President): "Liverpool and Manchester United have still not paid the compensation for leaving.”
Joan Laporta (FC Barcelona): "As soon as we receive the green light from the court, we will create the greatest competition in the world of sports, and everyone will want to join us."
You can create as many Super Leagues as you like Joan, if you keep forking out €120m on shit players you will still be losing money
Florentino Perez: "What failed in the Super League? Nothing, we're still working."
Florentino Perez: "The fans rule football. That's why we started the Super League with the 12 clubs with the most fans in Europe."
Florentino Perez: “You cannot give satisfaction to all the clubs, because competitions lose their appeal ... a Roma game does not have the same appeal as a Manchester United game ... the fans are in charge here ... that's why we took the 12 teams with the most fans.”
Florentino Perez: "Why should UEFA rule over us?"
Florentino Perez: "The Super League is NOT a closed league. It's open."
Florentino Perez: "Football should be fair? What does fair mean?"
Florentino Perez: "How can a club be like Real Madrid? Well, many fans. Real Madrid worked hard during the past years."
Florentino Perez: "The tribunals said it was illegal to ban us from Champions League, it would have been a monopoly."
Florentino Perez: "The English teams felt pressured by UEFA, and they signed something that they're NOT allowed to sign."
Florentino Pérez: “There are matches that no one watches and that does not bring money. Clubs that generate more money have to face each other. The Super League is an open league and will not affect the local leagues.”
Florentino Perez: “I have not spoken with Ceferín. We lose millions and Ceferin increases his salary. In which world do we live?"
Florentino Pérez: "Ceferín has already wanted to throw us out of the Champions League, but the courts have forbidden it.”
Florentino Perez: "There are people with privileges (UEFA) and want to keep them, even though football is dying."
Florentino Perez: “All clubs are not the same. Football is dying.”
Florentino Perez: "There are games that are not attractive. Look at the audiences. El Clasico is seen by hundreds of millions of people and there comes the money."
Florentino Perez: “It is time to see reality. It is normal that the best players from each place play, it is not closed, even if they watch the NBA. Every week we have to play attractive games, others are not bought."
Florentino Perez (to the journalist): "You want to be the good guy and give me an agressive interview right?"
Florentino Perez: "Nobody can leave the Super League. We signed a contract."
Florentino Perez: "The Super League is not about the rich and the poor. Football is for the fans."
Florentino Perez:There are not only 3 teams left, it's a lie. There is a binding agreement of all 12 teams. The Super League continues, nobody can leave. UEFA threatened us and the poor English fell for it."
Florentino Perez: "The Swiss Ministry of Justice tells UEFA that the Super League cannot be played. But why? Why can't you organize a football tournament?"
Florentino Perez: "The fans rule football. That's why we started the Super League with the 12 clubs with the most fans in Europe."
Florentino Perez: “You cannot give satisfaction to all the clubs, because competitions lose their appeal ... a Roma game does not have the same appeal as a Manchester United game ... the fans are in charge here ... that's why we took the 12 teams with the most fans.”
Florentino Perez: "Why should UEFA rule over us?"
Florentino Perez: "The Super League is NOT a closed league. It's open."
Florentino Perez: "Football should be fair? What does fair mean?"
Florentino Perez: "How can a club be like Real Madrid? Well, many fans. Real Madrid worked hard during the past years."
Florentino Perez: "The tribunals said it was illegal to ban us from Champions League, it would have been a monopoly."
Florentino Perez: "The English teams felt pressured by UEFA, and they signed something that they're NOT allowed to sign."
Florentino Pérez: “There are matches that no one watches and that does not bring money. Clubs that generate more money have to face each other. The Super League is an open league and will not affect the local leagues.”
Florentino Perez: “I have not spoken with Ceferín. We lose millions and Ceferin increases his salary. In which world do we live?"
Florentino Pérez: "Ceferín has already wanted to throw us out of the Champions League, but the courts have forbidden it.”
Florentino Perez: "There are people with privileges (UEFA) and want to keep them, even though football is dying."
Florentino Perez: “All clubs are not the same. Football is dying.”
Florentino Perez: "There are games that are not attractive. Look at the audiences. El Clasico is seen by hundreds of millions of people and there comes the money."
Florentino Perez: “It is time to see reality. It is normal that the best players from each place play, it is not closed, even if they watch the NBA. Every week we have to play attractive games, others are not bought."
Florentino Perez (to the journalist): "You want to be the good guy and give me an agressive interview right?"
Florentino Perez: "Nobody can leave the Super League. We signed a contract."
Florentino Perez: "The Super League is not about the rich and the poor. Football is for the fans."
Florentino Perez:There are not only 3 teams left, it's a lie. There is a binding agreement of all 12 teams. The Super League continues, nobody can leave. UEFA threatened us and the poor English fell for it."
Florentino Perez: "The Swiss Ministry of Justice tells UEFA that the Super League cannot be played. But why? Why can't you organize a football tournament?"
All the clubs are all still in the company
My favourite part is this one right here: "We're not excluding anybody, it's just that not everybody can take part"
Perez is a legend. Football is dying, yeah right. Just not enough money in the market when Barca can spend €500+m on Dembele, Coutinho and Griezmann.
Perez is a legend. Football is dying, yeah right. Just not enough money in the market when Barca can spend €500+m on Dembele, Coutinho and Griezmann.
meanwhile City and PSG spend over 1b in 3-5years each bring in fake sponsoships not get punished and all's goodMy favourite part is this one right here: "We're not excluding anybody, it's just that not everybody can take part"
Perez is a legend. Football is dying, yeah right. Just not enough money in the market when Barca can spend €500+m on Dembele, Coutinho and Griezmann.
This is killing the game and making sure that the football powerhouses stay that way for the next years while the other teams have barely any chance of surviving against them.
UEFA is not perfect and they probably can tweak their competitions but the Super League is not the answer.
For me, this is a clear message that money is above what football fans want.
UEFA is not perfect and they probably can tweak their competitions but the Super League is not the answer.
For me, this is a clear message that money is above what football fans want.
I think he has some fair point but the way he is presenting the super league sounds super greedy.
Perez is one of the more memorable “outside the playing field” football characters I’ve seen in my lifetime
This whole Super League idea was obviously a Cocaine and greed fuelled clusterfeck that died a justified early death.
But in all Perez's drug fuelled ramblings he has been right about one thing. UEFA shouldn't have a monopoly on European competition. If a set of teams want to opt out of UEFA competitions and create their own that any club has the chance to qualify for or be invited to then I think they should be able to. Without UEFA trying to stop it by threatening clubs and players with bans.
But in all Perez's drug fuelled ramblings he has been right about one thing. UEFA shouldn't have a monopoly on European competition. If a set of teams want to opt out of UEFA competitions and create their own that any club has the chance to qualify for or be invited to then I think they should be able to. Without UEFA trying to stop it by threatening clubs and players with bans.
Even though I want Perez to be punished, I'm glad UEFA haven't got their way. Just as greedy.
Why a Madrid Court has authority over this? Shouldn't this be decided at some international level court?
ECJ will rule on it.
There's no doubt the super league would be legal imo.
The issue is fans in key clubs they need for it to be viable, do not support it anywhere near as is.
RIP or to be continued?
No other clubs will quickly sign up for something that left them so burned this time
I think right there only thing Barca Real etc want is compensation from the clubs that joined but then left. I can't see how they can force clubs to rejoin.
RIP since the British Goverment already planning to make anti Super League laws. English clubs wont join.
But maybe Real creates a Super League with Juventus ?
Yeah, it might be easy for Madrid, Barca, Juventus to join but PL clubs wont be able to.
Hopefully this will die soon and we won't hear about it again.