European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


  • Total voters
    1,921
  • Poll closed .
The full article is on the NY times website behind a paywall. You can read it despite the paywall, but im not gonna go into how as dont want to get banned by admins or post the article in full here and get banned.
 
If this happens, people will moan a bit then still renew their season tickets.

They keep making changes but get away with it because, in normal times anyway, the grounds are still full.
 
Being against this isn't because you're pro Fifa or UEFA. It is because of how it would affect the fans, suddenly your club becomes some brand that has no connection to English football and plays for the highest bidder. How long would it be before these Super League games are being played in some huge money state instead of their home grounds.

I see it turning into the American sports system
 
I mean, the FA were against the formation of the European Cup 'as it would damage the integrity of the English game', refused to adjust kick off times and threatened to ban us from the league if we missed a kick off (bearing in mind that air travel was more difficult back then)
Exactly, they have taken great pleasure in being against us.
 
I think UEFA will back down and find a middle ground. They'd also be ruined without the elite clubs. It's a mess at moment, but I doubt the owners did this on a whim.

You're absolutely right mate. I don't think that anything set in stone but nevertheless im fecking trembling, not less because United is sadly all I have and id fecking hate to lose it.
 
Arguing with another member
Shut up man. I think that skys strategically placed slaughter of this Super League that hasn't in any way got the go-ahead and that we evidently know very little about is all to do with money.

They know that they are standing to lose the most on this.
Or perhaps it’s just a massive football fan speaking openly. He gets slated by cnuts like you for sucking up to the glazers but when he’s condemning them in a passionate speech he’s doing it for his own interest/sky’s interest.

By the way, these super league games will still be shown on TV you know?
 
The club is a disgrace for signing up to this. Comparisons to when the Premier League was formed are wide of the mark.

If the Premier League docked all the clubs involved points including us I'd be all for it.

Glazers wouldn't care so you'd be punishing the wrong people doing that tbf
 
Premier league has clubs like Leicester City winning the League and clubs like west ham fighting for top 4.

I love the diversity of the clubs compared to other leagues. Feeling like the top is fighting the top purely on celebrity status is a bit "meh" for me.
 
I am with Neville 90pts deduction to all teams signed up to it. Going to take years for this to get through, send them to the Champo and cut off the CL money.
I mean if they did enacted that punishment then the clubs wanting to breakoff would have little to no option but to go through with it.

Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it to in this scenario. The big clubs believe they are entitled to more of the revenue which they help to bring into the league. The leagues are trying to preserve the status quo in a world that has changed a lot since the premiership's inception. I think a compromise may be reached with the olive branch consisting of streaming rights of x amounts of games through the clubs own media channels.
 
Partly a method of getting more money due to their impact yes, but not to spite them, as they'll still be involved!

It's not even partly, it has nothing to do with them and everything to do with money. So to make it short prior to 2008 there used to be the G-14, aka the football mafia who specilalized in blackmail for more money, here you have an example from 2003. In 2008 the G-14 managed to really scare the UEFA and made them sign a memorandum of understanding, the G-14 became the ECA and pretended to play nice. Since then the ECA threaten to create its own super league whenever a new deal or memorandum is to be signed and every time the UEFA caves and give them something.

PS: The UEFA is corrupt on its own but big clubs are also vile and it has nothing to do with oil money or FFP.
 
Swiss Ramble: The 12 clubs lost a combined £1.2bn in 2019/20 before player sales
 
People in here saying football is nothing without fans.

There's not a person on this forum that wouldn't pay £30 a month for ONE subscription to watch elite football on a weekly basis.

feck you talking about? I will not pay a single penny to watch a single match from that league. Nor will i watch it for free on illegal streams like ITV and the likes. Has the whole world gone mad? Nobody has any principles anymore?
 
It is funny watching Sky squirm about this I must say. Them and BT are the ones who’ve glorified a lot of these billionaire owners like Abramovich and say that foreign ownership has helped the PL become the best league in the world. The PL would happily let Saudis take over another club just to further line their pockets and cement their status as “BESTEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD EVA”
 
Next step would be relocating teams from its location?

Oh, it rains here to much. Lets move teams to (insert country)
 
People think English football can live without United and Liverpool? Ha. That's 66% of the entire product right there.
 
To be fair, I can sympathize with Arsenal. They're so far off the elite now that this is the only way they can stay relevant :lol:

So what happens to fantasy premier league?
 
Because they both make bank from a competition formed as a breakaway that has caused enormous damage to the leagues below, and they take every opportunity to rip fans off for every penny they can.

They’re only outraged because they sense financial ruin
Did either of those entities attempt to remove very specific clubs from divisions (not based on merit) and place them into a newly formed league?
Because unless they did it’s not the same.

Also, I don’t think the Pl caused enormous damage to the leagues below. The championship is the most lucrative second tier division in the entire world. More lucrative than some top divisions.

Bad and incompetent owners caused the financial ruin we’ve seen in lower league clubs. If anything the Pl and FA were irresponsible in the sense they just allow people to freely take over football clubs in this country.

For all the horror stories of Wigan, Bury etc. There’s many football league clubs with competent owners who have benefitted from the structure and financial merits of the premier league and football league system in this country.
 
You're absolutely right mate. I don't think that anything set in stone but nevertheless im fecking trembling, not less because United is sadly all I have and id fecking hate to lose it.

If it happens folk who support these clubs like us and most here will probably lose their passion (yet still follow...)but the majority of football fans are probably casual therefore would gladly tune into a super league weekly. And that's the cash cow. But I'm confident it won't happen.
 
They won't give the slightest toss what "local" fans think. The international market will lap it up and they're a much bigger source of revenue these days. Your average Chinese fan isn't going to complain about more "big" games. Most of the people who protest it won't actually stop following the club/football altogether either. It'll go the same way as the green and gold brigade did, with a big outcry followed by a gradual return to normality as people realise nothing's going to change, bar a few real hardcore people (which, again, the people who run these clubs couldn't care less about).
Yeah you're right there, the global fanbase won't care. Maybe it'll lose popularity though if the matchgoers stop, and there's no atmosphere. Fake crowd noise to become permanent.

Personally I'll be done with it though, and go follow my new local team. And I'm by no means hardcore.
 
Anything that hurts UEFA and FIFA is good. Two organizations who are only functioning because of decades long corruption. Can't trust them to have a readonable view ob that.
 
We barely do anything in the Premier League these days, do we think we're going to do anything good in a European Premier League? God i HATE these owners, greedy American capitalists
They won’t care about winning it, if even finishing last will double their profits that’s all all that matters to them.