European Super League
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You basically have no idea what you are talking about or do you actually believe that UEFA has legal ground to expel these clubs from this year's CL?
Oh and btw, I am firmly against this Sl nonsense.
I hate Boris but hopefully this happens.
That moment in the Play-Offs was amazing by the way but apparently not entertaining to some as Messi and Ronaldo weren't involved.
I wonder if the Italian clubs would be so eager to join if this happened in the 90s.
This is the post! Well said.
Course they can. UEFA doesn't give a feck about the format of the Super League only that they are being cut out of it. This is all about money not the integrity of competition.
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I think Covid has encouraged these fools to think football can be played long term without fans in the stadium and to an extent real ‘legacy’ fans at all. Just put some fake crowd noise on Amazon and viewers will be happy.
The kind of atmosphere where there’s music playing and you have to kiss on the big stream, cheesy dance music to entertain the fans. Yep I know that atmosphere, it felt a bit different to being stood in the Stratford end atmosphere though.
I think Covid has encouraged these fools to think football can be played long term without fans in the stadium and to an extent real ‘legacy’ fans at all. Just put some fake crowd noise on Amazon and viewers will be happy.
That's a good take on it.
It's a double edged sword for both of them in the long-term tough. F. Perez said that the contracts signed on Saturday were binding, so I'm curious to see how any of these clubs would backtrack (if they want to backtrack, that is).
So if this did happen how would it work with the domestic leagues and obviously the current European cups. Perez thinks it will save football? I don't agree obviously. It might help those clubs and owners keep their fecking dividends but how does this super league help anyone not involved? Narrator: it doesn't. It fecks them hard imo.
- If the Champions league/Europa qualifies how do teams join? Could it be the same - Finish top 4 not including the Super 6 and you'll be in next years 'reduced rewards cl' So LCFC win the league, quality for the CL. Southampton Finish 9th, Quality for the CL. Arsenal finish 17th in the league, 20th in the Super League. Get more from just the Super league than LCFC winning the league.
- How do teams get picked based on 'Merit' finish top of your leagues to have a chance minus super 6 of course.. See how fecking stupid it already sounds? Or will it be a case of bidding to be part of the league, bring out the bribes.
- The chance of Utd ever playing some sides like Ajax becomes nigh on impossible.
- Thinking back to some of the shitty preseason tournaments we've played, I'm sure there was one under LVG which Utd won? Beat Madrid, City and Inter.. yet it was still fecking shite.
- Look at the SL's (I don't see European anywhere) current media strategy.. it's literally consisted of an announcement at 9:30pm on a Sunday and Perez yapping at midnight. Their website is a single page, twitter is empty. While it's been utterly slated by the media/government/Sporting bodies/players/pundits.. There is nothing from them? They knew to an extent how this would go down otherwise I feel they'd be all over selling this. Woodward on every media outlet possible but silence. silent.
- The Woman's league, would this include the same teams considering many of them are no where near the top in that. Many of the best teams aren't included Wolfsburg for instance.
- This would have dramatic repurcussions on football teams not involved if it did go ahead, less CL money for those not represented, less PL money and a pointless confusing league if the super 6 stay in the competition.
- No where in the statements does it say anything about helping clubs outside of the Super League so how this saves football Perez? I would love to know.
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They probably have factored this in, I'm saying that it detracts from the spectacle if the stadium is half empty or full of daytrippers who don't really care too much about winning or losing.
Agree that if players stand firm then this will die. Lets hope that is the case.
Exactly, just far better said than I did!
Half a dozen threads on the Super league.Can we have a clean up and just read it on this thread mods please.
It is exceptionally untidy signing in and seeing about 18 different threads about it
sorry but that's not remotely the same thing.. not even close
Yeah but they don't want any new new money competing with their new money.
UEFA: Oh, they want to keep playing in the CL this season? DEPLOY OVREBO WITH FEKIR AS VAR
Why do you care, out of interest? Each one is different, anyway. It's a huge topic with loads of different strands.Half a dozen threads on the Super league.
Depends a bit if the contracts can even be enforced.
The EU parlament is "on it", whatever that might be, and the British parlament are officially holding hearings and working on legislation to protect 'sanctity of competition and Jeopardy' as it were.
In essence, the men and women that control nations are coming for the small billionaires. I do love it when the people who rely on lawyers and money are challenged by the people that write the laws with pockets deeper than the hole in Ed Woodwards soul.
Wrong group to bring this up in, I suppose, but what does everyone make of the CL viewership numbers in Gen Z, which lag far behind other age groups. I know this is an excuse, but there is some truth to the fact that no one cares or watches Bayern v Olympiakos in the CL.
Totally against a US-style league with permanent members. There are so many shite teams in those leagues with awful owners.
Totally against a US-style league with permanent members. There are so many shite teams in those leagues with awful owners.
This. This is exactly how I feel. It definitely broke my heart, even if I was already not into football due to the ultra capitalistic view of it. What a fecking farce that our own club is dragged around at the forefront by our inhumane owners...
Here's a simple question that highlights why the idea this won't have an effect on the PL is risible.
Next year, who and how many PL teams qualify for the CL and EL?
Currently our coefficient is based mostly on the performance of teams that are no longer part of either competition, so do the rest of the PL benefit from that, or do we go to three CL teams?
Which teams gain entry? It is entirely feasible that 7th in the league is the highest place non scab team. That could mean 10th place getting automatic qualification into the CL.
Other leagues are not going to accept that when in many third place doesn't get you that privilege.
Next year, who and how many PL teams qualify for the CL and EL?
Currently our coefficient is based mostly on the performance of teams that are no longer part of either competition, so do the rest of the PL benefit from that, or do we go to three CL teams?
Which teams gain entry? It is entirely feasible that 7th in the league is the highest place non scab team. That could mean 10th place getting automatic qualification into the CL.
Other leagues are not going to accept that when in many third place doesn't get you that privilege.
A naive question I'm sure but what does it matter to UEFA what a Spanish court has decided?
I still feel the reaction from managers/players is far too muted.
It reminds me of this:
It reminds me of this:
You do still have to have qualified for a European competition to be eligible for Wild Card entry though, so there is still at least some (though not much) merit involved.
Sorry what isn't the same thing?
ESL as an entity is being registered in Spain
roll on for the Man City Vs Chelsea final where they play there reserves because its only the CL and they are resting their players for the start of the superleague in June as all their players are banned from the Euros
Well yeah they can join the ESL if they want but they get booted out of the CL and EL this season. A Spanish court surely can't do anything about that?
Sir Batt Musby - deary me that was dreadful from the sky sports presenter
It will only take one team to back down from this and the whole thing is done. Hopefully soon.
No it's not exactly the same, but they were already working on ways to allow teams into the CL who hadn't qualified through their league position. So it's not a stretch to think they will go further than that again to appease these teams and squash the Super League idea.
Extraterritorial jurisdiction is applicable if relating to European Competition laws
Do you really think so? I honestly think that only Us, Liverpool, Barcelona and Madrid (obviously won't happen) would have an impact. The others are much smaller than Bayern and they are moving forward without them.
I’d understand if it was him muddling his words up but he said both with such conviction. Made me laugh anyway
tend to agree - if spurs walk out people will just point out that they probably didnt deserve to be abywhere close to the league (at least based on recent trophies)