European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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What can we as fans do as a positive response?

How about we donate to Rashford's food charity as a peaceful protest? The more money coming in the bigger attention it will get, increasing the pressure.
 
Because people have to get realistic, expelling the big six from the PL is not the answer, making players or managers speak out against their employers in public is not the answer. The argument will get polarised instead of trying to come to a solution.
I am sure this kind of 'realistic thinking' would see us have a 1800s world today if everyone was cynical and realistic at all times.

Sometimes to get major change, you need to take the plunge.

This whole situation is dire but if we come out of it with some genuine football reform, it'd be great.
 
Not sure if baseball still pay 'Luxury Tax', but going back it was well known that owners of smaller teams just pocketed it and did not use it to strengthen their own teams.

Absolutely but that's a different story. The Padres and Rays owners have been accused of that if I'm not mistaken.
 
With a bit of luck this will get smacked down and the Glazers long term business model will be shredded and they will look for a buyer.
 
I have no idea. I am not an American. I can imagine a situation where the owners keep tanking, then not getting a good draft pick, over and over until fans stop coming. Then they'll up sticks and move the "franchise" to a new city, saddling that new city with debts they'd accrue building a new fangled stadium.

I don't think that particular scenario has ever happened yet to my knowledge. Probably the most egregious example of tanking was what the Philadelphia Sixers of the NBA did a few years ago called "The Process" - essentially this was about a multiyear plan to trade every decent player on the roster and be as atrocious as humanly possible for an entire ~3 season period.

Fans mostly were generally pretty positive - part of the thing with America as well is that these large cities have multiple teams competing in the different leagues, so Sixers fans could focus instead on the Eagles in the NFL, Villanova in the NCAAs, the Flyers in the NHL, etc. That's generally not the case in Europe.
 
I am sure this kind of 'realistic thinking' would see us have a 1800s world today if everyone was cynical and realistic at all times.

Sometimes to get major change, you need to take the plunge.

This whole situation is dire but if we come out of it with some genuine football reform, it'd be great.

But everyone seems to be jumping in without actually thinking of what would happen if what they are suggesting did happen.
Remember Brexit, no Brexiter thought of the consequences.

If everyone really wants to stop it then devise a proper plan taking into consideration what happens if this happens or that happens.
 
Based on what one random tweet?

Didn't want to be a part of it yet they're signed up as founding members of the SL and have the statement on their official sites. Do me a favour mate, they're as bad as the rest.

Arguably worse as they've only been invited due to massive financial doping and now they want to protect their own position at the top of football by making sure that isn't replicated by other clubs.

It is coming from a number of places that they weren't in the vanguard of this and signed up out of cowardice.
He did something similar to a child playing rugby :lol:



Nah, that is actually Joel Glazer. Fecker got himself cloned as an Asian kid.
 
Shaping up to be a humiliating time for some of the leeches and mobsters.

If City and Chelsea pull out - it's over. Will be glorious, Joel will probably cry.
 
What did he say of substance?

"It is not a sport where the relation between effort and success does not exist"

"It is not a sport where success is already guaranteed and it doesn't matter when you lose"

'It's not fair when one team fight, fight, fight for the top and still cannot be qualified because it is just for a few teams."

"The right people - the owners - have the obligation, the duty, to clarify as soon as possible, clarify all around the world why these teams should play and the others not. Ajax - with four Champions Leagues - why they are not there?"

"For all of us managers, it is uncomfortable. Presidents can talk more clear what is the idea for the future and where football is going to go. I would love the president go all around the world and say what is the reason they took this decision."

"I support this club and I am part of the club but also I have my own opinion."


You're not going to find a stronger, or more real and off the cuff, condemnation than that from any player or manager who's part of the 'competition'
 
Hollow words from big corp.


Its not.

Its important.

This is big money, the biggest money of them all, recognizing what an absolute PR disaster is happening right now.

If they are consciously making the decision to distance themselves from even the rumour they were thinking about showing it, then you can bet other big money has their arses flapping in the wind too.
 
All these news sources have their own Twitter feeds. Why do so many people quote bullshit transfer rumour Twitter pages including that ‘Utd Report’ one that bungs ‘via @bbcsport’ on any old shit it makes up despite the fact yes stories are NEVER from BBC Sport?

If you want to cite a newspaper do it. When it comes via ‘TransftLads4u75563’ without any links it just seems like crap
 
Shaping up to be a humiliating time for some of the leeches and mobsters.

If City and Chelsea pull out - it's over. Will be glorious, Joel will probably cry.
I can see most of the prem teams backing out but the Glazers, I reckon Perez will then push for a southern Europe super league. We need the Government to implement 51% fan ownership, then those yank feckers plans will be in tatters and they can feck off.
 
For us it's particularly dismissive of our history. The Munich Air Disaster happened as a result of a team wanting to be recognised as the best in Europe. The rebuilding that Matt Busby did and subsequent win 10 years later is perhaps the biggest success moment in the clubs history. To be willing to pull us out of this competition shows how much the owners care about the club. No matter what happens the Glazer's and Woodward's role at the club are now untenable. There is nothing they can do to walk this back and they must be forced to leave the club no matter what it takes. Now is the time for fans and current and ex players to demand that they go.
 
"It is not a sport where the relation between effort and success does not exist"

"It is not a sport where success is already guaranteed and it doesn't matter when you lose"

'It's not fair when one team fight, fight, fight for the top and still cannot be qualified because it is just for a few teams."

"The right people - the owners - have the obligation, the duty, to clarify as soon as possible, clarify all around the world why these teams should play and the others not. Ajax - with four Champions Leagues - why they are not there?"

"For all of us managers, it is uncomfortable. Presidents can talk more clear what is the idea for the future and where football is going to go. I would love the president go all around the world and say what is the reason they took this decision."

"I support this club and I am part of the club but also I have my own opinion."


You're not going to find a stronger, or more real and off the cuff, condemnation than that from any player or manager who's part of the 'competition'
There was an Arsenal fan on Talksport this morning and he couldn't understand why Arsenal were in there as he said they are rubbish.
 
Imagine that, the "plastics" realising they fecked up and back down while the "old guard" United and Liverpool cling on for the cash.

Maybe it was all part of a master plan. Sign up and agree to go along with the others to make them feel safe, then back out as you can swallow the price but the others cannot. 4d chess.