Or players just respond back through their social media and PR team. Then they're just sitting on the bench with their outrageous wages, or forcing a loan. Waiting for the manager to get sacked, and voila.. a new clean slate with the new manager.That will have some of our lot running for cover
It is very generous of you to allow for 'some scepticism' coming off the worst PL season in our history. Indeed it is quite possible that something will improve next season - circumstances like injuries will likely be better -, but we will not need some improvement, but some massive improvement from the shitshow we've been seeing last season in order to even reach the bare minimum (top 4) that our club should be reaching. And there, the reasonable amount of scepticism regarding Ten Hag's ability to deliver is quite substantial.I can understand some scepticism after the season we just had, but the amount of posters that seem to be absolutely sure that nothing will improve next season is baffling. No mid-season takeover, young players improving and adding players to the squad should help, and the odds that we'll have a season-long injury crisis are low. If we don't see any improvement, or not enough, then ten Hag should go - that goes without saying. I believe that, given the right signings and departures, we should be at a much healthier place than last season and we should see the results of that on the pitch. ten Hag is a good coach, last season was a statistical anomaly in his career so far. I'm content with giving him a chance to rectify last season.
I'm sure ruud will have a bigger remit than thatRuud replacing McCarthy as striker coach and Hake replacing McClaren as assistant manager I'm guessing?
Bit racist thisOh great, more Dutch coaches...
Why ? I mean he might , but it looks straightforward that a striker coach with that remit is not having his contract renewed , so there's a vacancy for that post , unless you think the other guy is going to be the striker coach ?I'm sure ruud will have a bigger remit than that
Sancho will hire a Pshychologist on Pre-season, the weakling
Ruud isn’t going to give up the chance to manage Burnley to be a striker coach.Why ? I mean he might , but it looks straightforward that a striker coach with that remit is not having his contract renewed , so there's a vacancy for that post , unless you think the other guy is going to be the striker coach ?
These clowns make millions and get away with doing the utter bare minimum or even less. A screaming or two is justifiedActually, joke or not, i agree with @Unam333 . I am all for yelling in general to make a point but screaming at someone (and throwing insults at him) is a no go. If i was that player, no way i would let them (managers) do that shit. Guy is an idiot.
Imagine your boss at work doing that to you. Would you be ok with it? Football is not an army, ffs.
Because he managed PSV for a season and won a cup. He's obviously not joining us to be limited to mentoring strikers.Why ? I mean he might , but it looks straightforward that a striker coach with that remit is not having his contract renewed , so there's a vacancy for that post , unless you think the other guy is going to be the striker coach ?
Bit racist this
I doubt there is a massive difference , between giving up the opportunity to manage Burnley to be a coach underling or an assistant coach underling .Ruud isn’t going to give up the chance to manage Burnley to be a striker coach.
AgreedBecause he managed PSV for a season and won a cup. He's obviously not joining us to be limited to mentoring strikers.
@horsechokerWhy the feck are we going full Dutch anyway, getting sick of their accent.
It's time someone stood up for the Dutch, they've been harshly treated.
We will find out soon enough .Because he managed PSV for a season and won a cup. He's obviously not joining us to be limited to mentoring strikers.
I have never said that but i will start doing so nowIt's time someone stood up for the Dutch, they've been harshly treated.
It's like the Dutch would say "Mijn billen bevatten pindakaas."
Give me almond butter anyday of the week.It's time someone stood up for the Dutch, they've been harshly treated.
It's like the Dutch would say "Mijn billen bevatten pindakaas."
I would have Ruud over any other striker coach in the world. Maybe there's a brilliant one out there we've never heard of, but Ruud is no pussywillow when it comes to getting the job done...whatever the job is. Splitting logs in Scandinavia, wrestle alligators in Louisiana, or bringing down the Taliban once and for all, unleash the Dutchman.Oh great, more Dutch coaches...
This sounds about rightI imagine Ruud and Hake are to replace Chris Ramsey and McCarthy and MvdG and Steve McClaren will stay put.
You can. The trick is to know when to do it and when not to. Being nicey nice gets you nowhere. You think that Pep and Klopp are all smiles when things aren't working?I was dead serious. We're in the year 2024 now. You can't do that, ever. Hopefully you don't have a boss who humiliates you in front of your co-workers and in front of the cameras.
This is competetive sport. It isn't a normal industry. Sure, things are a bit different now in 2024, but there's still a place for tough love. The top managers know how to make their players tick. That isn't always 'an arm round the shoulder'.Actually, joke or not, i agree with @Unam333 . I am all for yelling in general to make a point but screaming at someone (and throwing insults at him) is a no go. If i was that player, no way i would let them (managers) do that shit. Guy is an idiot.
Imagine your boss at work doing that to you. Would you be ok with it? Football is not an army, ffs.
I think he's saying Ruud would only come for a larger coaching role. Not that there is some long term conspiracy for him to get the job as soon as ten hag inevitably screws up.I doubt there is a massive difference , between giving up the opportunity to manage Burnley to be a coach underling or an assistant coach underling .
You're saying he wouldn't do that ? I don't think you know . Not everyone is the same. McKenna walked away from it ( Ralf rated him apparently ) to go and manage in league 1 . Yet ruud is turning down a higher job position to come here in a much lower role .
I suppose the next thing that will gain traction once repeated enough will be , ten hag is keeping the seat warm for him .
I mean I love a conspiracy as much as the next guy , but sometimes the answer is in front of you .
Never heard a Dutch person say that, but I‘m adding it to my vocabulary for sure. It might come in handy.It's time someone stood up for the Dutch, they've been harshly treated.
It's like the Dutch would say "Mijn billen bevatten pindakaas."
So we're going from Bad Cop/Bad Cop in ETH and Van der Gaag, to Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop... Well that'll help detoxify the dressing roomI‘m not sure what to make of these developments. Hake seems tough and Ruud is no cupcake either (stubborn Dutch bastard too).
Maybe it‘s been decided more discipline is needed in training.
There are two things I can’t stand in this world.It's time someone stood up for the Dutch, they've been harshly treated.
It's like the Dutch would say "Mijn billen bevatten pindakaas."
More like bad cop, bad cop, psycho cop going by that vidSo we're going from Bad Cop/Bad Cop in ETH and Van der Gaag, to Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop... Well that'll help detoxify the dressing room
I know, right? wtf is going on?So we're going from Bad Cop/Bad Cop in ETH and Van der Gaag, to Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop... Well that'll help detoxify the dressing room
That's the spirit. Creating a scenario in your head to get annoyed about.So we're going from Bad Cop/Bad Cop in ETH and Van der Gaag, to Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop... Well that'll help detoxify the dressing room
I'm not annoyed - just curious what the thinking is, and it was a chance to make a bad joke.That's the spirit. Creating a scenario in your head to get annoyed about.
That's the spirit!I'm not annoyed - just curious what the thinking is, and it was a chance to make a bad joke.
I'm delighted Ruud is coming in - but honestly, just because I liked him as a player. Don't know enough about his coaching to know if he'll improve things. The other guy I know even less about, other than he can do a decent hairdryer...
Yeah much as I hate to give them credit they know how to motivate without coming across too criticalYou can. The trick is to know when to do it and when not to. Being nicey nice gets you nowhere. You think that Pep and Klopp are all smiles when things aren't working?
Man Utd fans: The likes of Sancho, Rashford, JLingz are too soft, lack discipline, doesn't stand up to be counted when the going gets tough etc. Ole is too soft on them that's why he failed.Hate that Hake guy already. Such an a-hole coach, humiliating that guy in front of the camera. Dude was crying as well. You can't treat people like that, ever.
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Saw other videos and this guy was constantly swearing and screaming his head off. A real leader (and in this case a coach) doesn't need to scream to make his point.
Well maybe Ten Hag will be the least bad of the bad bunch, so will look better somehow...So we're going from Bad Cop/Bad Cop in ETH and Van der Gaag, to Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop/Bad Cop... Well that'll help detoxify the dressing room