And why would you know whether this guy cannot be both either?
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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There are enough videos of current top managers going ballistic, so…
Why?
These fecking players will finally learn their lessons.
Why? Look him on Youtube
Ok Nostradamus. Interesting that you have so much inside knowledge, probably based on a couple of short clips
There's no videos of him being the 'best striker coach we could get' on YouTube.
People put too much emphasis on getting the right/perfect coaches.
The main thing is to create a good environment for young players to grow, not put too much pressure on them and manage their game time. All the things we're terrible at and no strikers, midfield, fitness coach is going to change that.
The main thing is to create a good environment for young players to grow, not put too much pressure on them and manage their game time. All the things we're terrible at and no strikers, midfield, fitness coach is going to change that.
so...doesn't mean it should be considered normal behavior
after a month we will get leaks about players 'underwhelmed with training methods'
Playing skill doesn't always translate to coaching skills.
Whilst that is true, Ruud was an exceptional, versatile striker. Just his experience can be top notch, I have more faith in him than McCarthy
Well it depends what we want from him. Hojlund biggest (only?) strength is his finishing. So, in my mind, we should be looking for a complete opposite type of "player/coach".
But it also shows that not every top coach is only a nice guy nowadays
Hopefully here they can find a middle ground between all smiles and whatever the hell that was.
Unfair on McCarthy who himself had a career many can only dream of.
We don’t know the ins and outs of these roles so to diminish one for the other is pointless.
But they don’t go to matches. They probably don’t watch games. They tap in messages to phones. It’s about themselves. I know there are shills and bots and all sorts of needy people whinging from the refuge of forum anonymity. But a good half of this place are United supporters in name only.
Ever watch the Wrexham series? Their manager, every second word is a swear.
I never know what to think about Ruud. Obviously as a manager you have to be tough but when I watch him outside of press conferences he seems like the most kind and soft spoken guy you'll ever see
Phil “Fecking” Parkinson
I think the trick is to make sure the players know you’re on their side but they’ll get called out if perform poorly. Take the rough with the smooth.
Shouting all the time never works as loses its weight and turns players off. The odd rant (if deserved) should work to give players a wake up call… also needs players to take the rant and say “yeah, we were sh!t, that won’t happen again”.
Not sure I agree with some of the posts on here saying “you can’t do that in such and such an industry”. Apples and oranges.. I expect my boss to CLEARLY tell me I’m wrong when he’s got a point and I’ll take it. If I was still playing football and did something stupid, I’d 100% expect the manager to ball me out.
Funny that videos off Hake weren’t popular discussion points before linked to us… and that the video picked is one where he’s shouting at the players.
You must be expecting big things from the Plymouth strikers under Rooney.
Henry is a good example where a top player was a terrible coach, because he was a top player.
I'm not saying ruud is a bad coach but it doesn't always work by saying "ah Yea he was better as a player so hel be able to be a better influence to players"
Rooney was manager, RvN will be COACH of strikers.
How long will it be before we get the leaks about the players being unhappy with René Hake? We know our players like to throw their toys out of the pram when someone shouts at them.
What strikers? We have one
Look he might end up being great for us but people referencing videos of RvN PLAYING is pretty much irrelevant to how good a COACH he is.
It's like saying if i can run faster than you I'd be able to coach someone better to do it than you.
Can you stop insinuating his remit is limited to strikers.
I see some folks doubting Ruud's ability to coach and bringing up his PSV tenure. Well.... he won a trophy at PSV and half the CAF were willing to give Erik another chance because he too won a trophy. So are some of you saying Ruud wasn't successful at PSV?
What Parkinson does is "positive" yelling, typical for sports. He is yelling in general and not targeting specific player. What this idiot does is completely different.
I think whether he was successful as a manger is totally irrelevant for us, as he will have a different role here.
Getting RVN to be a "strikers coach" (not sure if that's even true) seems like a move from someone who just finished "managing football club 101" book rather than a sensible move, but that's just looking "on the surface". There might be a masterplan behind it. I also have no idea what is the responsibility of those coaches. Players go up and down in form and that doesn't seem to be correlated with any of those coaches coming in/out.
Disappointing lack of fish puns about Mr Hake.
Was he recommended by David Gill?
Was he recommended by David Gill?
He's giving up the chance to manage Burnley to become the caretaker first team coach of Manchester United around Christmas.
This take is mental, he did not want to be first team coach of PSV and certainly isn‘t going to be interim of the biggest club in the world.
Take it as it was intended then, as a joke.
I don’t know about that but I’m sure when he heard about the United job he was breaming from ear to ear.
Bagging this coach might prove to be a real prize catch for the skipper!
May tip the scales in your favour and net a CL plaice.
I would have thought McClaren was the ultimate 'good cop' foil for ETH and VDG. I think its good to freshen up the backroom staff though but my only concern is that Dutch football people don't always seem to have the most harmonious relationships with each other and with 4 big egos there could be potential for a massive toxic bust up down the line.
Pretty sure they will give him a sit down interview when he joins and he can reiterate that United is a big pull for him, he isn’t ready to be a manager and how much he feels he can make a difference to the young players in the squad