If the team wins the next 3 with performances similar to what we've seen for most of the season (outside of pool) the narrative will be positive e.g. better possession, more chances etc. If we have 3 poor performances then it'll be negative with the fact we haven't had a full 90 of a good performance outside of Barnsley. Now is it likely we win all 3, probably not. However, is it beyond the realm of possibility, no. The reality is EtH's time here will be put in to context after the fact. If you have made up your mind that he is going to fail, fair enough. Is EtH reaching the end of his tether, quite likely. We will see what happens.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
If the team wins the next 3 with performances similar to what we've seen for most of the season (outside of pool) the narrative will be positive e.g. better possession, more chances etc. If we have 3 poor performances then it'll be negative with the fact we haven't had a full 90 of a good performance outside of Barnsley. Now is it likely we win all 3, probably not. However, is it beyond the realm of possibility, no. The reality is EtH's time here will be put in to context after the fact. If you have made up your mind that he is going to fail, fair enough. Is EtH reaching the end of his tether, quite likely. We will see what happens.
I personally think he needs to win all 3. It's at a point where he has to show something with this team.
No don’t agree. That’s being harsh on fans with a different opinion. Remember opinions are like assholes, everyone has one
But whilst my opinion since last season is that he and hai brand of football will not work here, it’s not ok for me to say people are not fans if they disagree
Where did the rest of the fans go?
Wow. Classy contribution
3 more games to go, hold on lads.
Can’t even beat the club equivalent of Bosnia and Herzegovina at home with a full strength squad.
Sick of the sight of this guy.
Sick of the sight of this guy.
We’ll be there is he loses on the weekend IMO
Spurs at home then Porto and villa away. Will he pull his Houdini act again or will this finally be it for ten hag?
It's not that simple. We sacked Moyes within 10 months, and LvG as soon as things started to turn, despite an FA cup win. Mourinho too, arguably, after winning a couple of trophies the season before.
Being ruthless hasn't worked. Being patient hasn't worked. We're in this predicament because, more often than not, we've hired the wrong people and signed the wrong players.
The new execs seem to have started turning around the latter, but we'll have to wait and see if they have better luck appointing a manager.
I think this might be a bridge too far for him. Honestly, there is nothing that I have seen so far that gives me any confidence that this team could win even 2 out of these 3 fixtures, let alone all 3. That is damning in itself.
Patience with a manager is good, but patience with the wrong manager is just a waste of time. Why can’t we accept that not every manager will come good with patience. What has Ten Hag shown in the last years in playing style or progression that we need to have more patience with him. The squad is better/younger than when he started but the results aren’t better at all.
The football isn't good but he also can't manage the game to save his life.
He keeps making that move of subbing a player in a certain position only to move him to a different one 10 minutes later. How does that help the player or the team find any rhythm in the game and what does it say about the manager's confidence in his decisions?
He keeps making that move of subbing a player in a certain position only to move him to a different one 10 minutes later. How does that help the player or the team find any rhythm in the game and what does it say about the manager's confidence in his decisions?
He shouldn’t last that long. Sack him today and move on.
Exactly. I would be amazed if any other top side (well we were under the great man) would have tolerated anything approaching the dire performances under Ten Hag. And I just can't see the justification.
Yes this year he has bought some semi decent players.
I don't believe he is going to be saked quite yet. But in my view he is on very thin ice.
I blame Arteta. The cnut gave everyone hope -- from the owners to new management and some fans.
Get rid of him ASAP and there's a chance this season won't be a complete write off. As it stands, we're going nowhere anytime soon. We're closer to Southampton than we are to City.
Even if INEOS don’t sack ETH after Spurs get through with us, I would hope they’re at least making inquiries with suitable successors. We cannot go another month witnessing shambolic performances by a squad which by all rights should be able handle clubs at the level of Palace and Twente.
Very fair post.
Sigh. I hope changes are made before the season is a complete write off - again. His tenure despite the cup wins has really been a chore. I don't feel excited about watching United games
It should be the end of the road for Ten Hag.
He's been given enough time and we've become a second class football team - no progress at all.
He's been given enough time and we've become a second class football team - no progress at all.
I rate our first team squad now. It's not league winning quality but I find little to fault really. No real excuses left for ten hag, he absolutely should be doing far better than he is with it.
Needs to go now, I've lost hope
Such an ABU fan thing to say. We need more patience.
I think ETH will turn it around when he has Lacey and Ibragimov coming close to their peak years -- then he will have the perfect catalysts to take us to the next level.
What if he turned us down because our offer was shite? I mean Klopp turned us down once, does that mean we shouldn't get back in for him if he would be willing to join us?
Took me a minute to get thisWhich big Liverpool defeat? the 7-1 or the 3-0?
Mate it was 7-0..
I am not surprised by the result last night or the knee jerk reactions this morning.
He got it wrong last night, he should have rotated and given the chance to some of the fringe players to impress but he picked most of the starters in what was a meaningless game tbh.
Its no surprised they put in such a performance, most of them were probably thinking they were going to be rested for the weekend.
ETH really does not help himself at times, but its early in the season and he knows his job is on the line and there are no excuses so i would expect us to improve.
There are grounds for optimism though, we are creating chances in the league but are not putting them away, i think we are way clear in the big chances missed this season so its up to the players to start putting them away.
We should have a better idea after the Spurs and Villa games.
He got it wrong last night, he should have rotated and given the chance to some of the fringe players to impress but he picked most of the starters in what was a meaningless game tbh.
Its no surprised they put in such a performance, most of them were probably thinking they were going to be rested for the weekend.
ETH really does not help himself at times, but its early in the season and he knows his job is on the line and there are no excuses so i would expect us to improve.
There are grounds for optimism though, we are creating chances in the league but are not putting them away, i think we are way clear in the big chances missed this season so its up to the players to start putting them away.
We should have a better idea after the Spurs and Villa games.
The reason he's survived is because he somehow manages to get a freebie in the middle of some fairly standard runs where he's under performing, like Southampton or Barnsley, and people flip flop in their opinion. Now we have no injuries he can't hide behind that affecting the results anymore and the freebies have dried up. Only tough games now.
I don't think anyone is surprised. We've gotten what most expected.
Could be sacked after the next 3 games. Can't see us getting anything really from them
Why the feck hasn't he been sacked this morning. Mental club we are
Reactions aren't knee jerk this is his third season. Reactions are based of years of absolute shite
Moving Bruno out to the right and removing Rashford & Amad last night shows that Ten Hag will not change. I'm done with hoping. Ten Hag is not versatile in his tactics or formations and plays his favourites to the detriment of the team. This isn't an Arteta situation where we are improving year on year. Its blatantly obvious that Ten Hag isn't good enough. His in game management is horrendous. 3 huge games coming up for him.
Nothing knee jerk about it, it's been 2 years of absolute shite.
Nothing is going to change. We might scrape a point v spurs but we'll get spanked by villa.
Who would you replace him with, RVN? And try and persuade Tuchel or someone else?
It would be a knee jerk reaction if we were within the first 10 games of his tenure. We aren't. We are two and a bit seasons in and results are no better and it's utter shit.
Better idea of what? How shit we are? The fact we can't beat lessor teams should already give you an idea. I'd be surprised if we manage 3 points out of the next three (Spurs, Porto, Villa).