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Oh dear but honestly, who’s available? All too easy to blame it on Ten Hag and sack him.
Oh dear but honestly, who’s available? All too easy to blame it on Ten Hag and sack him.
Just saw his post match interview
He said “it’s a process” - never thought of it that way before
Did he choose? And if he did then that also shows that Ole didn’t have what ETH now has… a proper football structure running the transfers.Ole chose not to sign a DM, that's on him. Didn't he spend close to 400m? That 2nd place finish done so much heavy lifting. They're both absolutely nowhere near good enough.
Your post is an absolute joke tbh
Did he choose?
When should they have corrected it?
If 2nd vs 4th on xg is 'ridiculously lucky' where would you put 3rd vs 6th on xg 22/23 and 8th vs 14th last season.The answer to the ETH vs Ole debate is that they both spunked a massive amount of money and had thoroughly underwhelming tenures. Who gives a flying feck if someone prefers one over the other. Both were/are nowhere near good enough. Ole was ridiculously lucky getting that infamous 2nd place finish, given Xg had us 4th.
2nd vs 4th on xg is 'ridiculously lucky' where would you put 3rd vs 6th on xg 22/23 and 8th vs 14th last season.
Different levels.
So he didn’t get what ETH now as… people deciding on what type of player we need and what position.Yes.
Ashworth, Berrada and Wilcox have nothing to do with INEOS.
So he didn’t get what ETH now as… people deciding on what type of player we need and what position.
It would of course help if there was a certain "spine" of the team. One that always played and certain players who were always reliable.I agree, how can partnerships or understanding each others play develop if the team radically changes from game to game and sometimes half to half.
I know he is. Oles football was better without the backing of proper footballing people. That’s my pointETH is shite too? What's your point? He spent close to 400m ffs.
TrollWhy? We all know we wouldnt still be in such a mess if the Glazers had have sold to Shiekh Jassim
I know he is. Oles football was better without the backing of proper footballing people. That’s my point
We had managers who were proven winners at the highest level like LVG and Mourinho and they werent successful. We had Ole who had very limited experience managing at the highest level and he wasnt successful either. We also had Moyes who had proven PL experience and he wasnt successful either.
When I see some of the names mentioned as potential replacements for Ten Hag in the other thread, they dont inspire confidence. Names like Potter, Southgate, McKena, Amorim, DeZerbi, Unai Emery, Thomas Frank and even Ole (again ) dont fill me with optimism they can bring us back to the top. Tuchel has managed and won trophies at the highest level but he would come with his own baggage. I am not sure Zidane wants to manage in England.
We will have to wait and see. I just hope INEOS bring Utd out of this mess whether with ten Hag or someone else. Its been too long for this great club to be lost in the wilderness.
Do you really think they were not involved in some way in the decision to keep him? That’s a bit naive.The decision was made to stick with him before Berrada and Ashworth were appointed.
Look, no one is happy with how things are but it’s obvious INEOS wanted to assemble their team and let them review Ten Hag and make any subsequent decisions on him. Unfortunately Berrada couldn’t start until July due to his terms of employment and Newcastle dragged out the Ashworth deal so we had to wait a significant amount of time to get things together.
We were awful that game and a sign of things to come, so why not. He needs to go, when doesn’t really matterSo after the Fulham game?
They weren’t at the club and weren’t working with himDo you really think they were not involved in some way in the decision to keep him? That’s a bit naive.
Ten Hag is not the worst Utd manager in modern era even if we forget Moyes, LVG and Ole. In 10 years my kids wont know we finished in the top four twice under Ole but they will know we won two trophies under ten Hag. And its too early to say DeLigt, Ugarte, Zirkzee, Mazraou and Yoro (who hasnt played yet) as shit players. Dont you think?There is nothing "very promising" about their start.
We've signed more shit players that the manager wanted, and they're dithering over the decision to sack our worst manager in the modern era.
Poor Yoro. Hasn’t even played yet.There is nothing "very promising" about their start.
We've signed more shit players that the manager wanted, and they're dithering over the decision to sack our worst manager in the modern era.
Lets hope so.Yes I am. There's such a thing called an interim manager that's literally designed for that exact situation. My argument is that it would be very hard to do any worse than we currently are under RvN for instance. I don't see what you find so ridiculous about that idea.
You're presuming a lot. But let's hope they used their time wisely.They had enough time to work a replacement out.
Plus, even an interim solution could give us a bit of a bounce if INEOS really weren't able to find a replacement yet.
He is the Utd manager now and I want him to be successful because that means Utd is also successful. Just out of curiosity why did you refer to him as 'some Dutch bloke'? Does his nationality matter to you? Personally I dont care about the nationality of our players or managers as long as they bring success to Utd.Um. If you dearly support the club, why are you so happy to support some Dutch bloke who is taking our team down the shitter? Ten Hag means nothing to United, he'll leave and never be remembered fondly. Exercise some critical thinking instead of blind support
These shite results haven’t come out of the blue, if INEOS haven’t got a few names of replacements in mind at this stage then we’re really fecked!
Ten Hag is not the worst Utd manager in modern era even if we forget Moyes, LVG and Ole. In 10 years my kids wont know we finished in the top four twice under Ole but they will know we won two trophies under ten Hag. And its too early to say DeLigt, Ugarte, Zirkzee, Mazraou and Yoro (who hasnt played yet) as shit players. Dont you think?
Good point. But it needs to said, that the task became more and more difficult as the squad deteriorated more and more into an assembly of big names and big promise but without hard work and right mentality. Also I think, Ole doesn't really suit your point in being unwilling to adapt - with him it was rather his inability to adapt (or recognize the issues).On a sidenote all the managers that have followed SAF have something in common, they have been inflexible, unwilling to adapt to what they have. That's probably a flaw in our recruitement process.
If the ship is sinking then you go to the lifeboat and worry about finding land later.
Because I still believe hes a good coach and can turn things around. I am not arguing that he shouldnt be sacked at all but I want him to be given some time. Lets see how the next few games go if hes not sacked tomorrow.This manager continues to damage the club you dearly support, so it begs the question, why are you still supporting him?
We’re fecked!
We got a new manager bounce each time we sacked a manager before Christmas.Lets hope so.
We got a new manager bounce each time we sacked a manager before Christmas.
Ole went 12 PL games in a row without losing.
Carrick/Rangnick only lost 1 of our next 19 games after Ole was sacked. Stopped the bleeding.
I'd expect an upturn in results under any interim.
He has won two cups. Ole won feck all and didn’t get us close in the league. Moyes took a side that won the league to 6th.
Our Europa League final loss was all down to Ole. It was pathetic. Ten Hag out foxed Guardiola and beat Liverpool on the way to that FA Cup.
I get that people are sick of him and want him sacked but I just don’t get the point in resorting to ridiculous arguments other than to vent your frustration. He’s been objectively more successful than both Solskjaer and Moyes. It’s ridiculous to claim he will be classed as having a worse tenure than either of them.
Oh don't start bringing up this crap again. You have no idea if things would be better right now if we'd been bought by Jassim instead ffs.Why? We all know we wouldnt still be in such a mess if the Glazers had have sold to Shiekh Jassim