Because their United career would be over. To our fans, a player going against the manager is the greatest crime one can commit in football - even more outrageous than sacking the manager.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Votes can now be changed
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
The turd that won't flush kinda vibesHe will fluke a win over Villa just to prolong it won’t he
Feck, it's depressing how negative i've become - and the season's barely started.
Playing for time I reckon. Get a plan together and source a replacement, sack him during the internationals and don’t be accused of being knee jerk. They’ve only just “renewed” his contract or whatever it was.
It really wasn't easy voicing a concern because he was so popular at the time.
It's only a matter of time. Dead man walking. Interesting to hear why United considered firing him but didn't ultimately choose to go that way yet. A new manager, selling Rashford, and keeping Sancho was the more logical move they were considering but ultimately didn't pursue.
More big home losses than Jose and Ole combined in less than half the time.
Quite the feat.
They should already have a list of candidates ready to go. It's worrying if they don't.
Weghorst stinking up the starting XI game after game is when alarm bells started ringing in my head, although I didn't fully turn against ETH until a few games into the disastrous CL campaign last season.Spot on. Basically since Wout became a regular fixture
How much would we lose it we do not get any European football next season and he does not win a domestic cup?
Let's start a Gofund me, I'm good for a couple hundred, in sure we could raise this is few days if all United fans chipped in. Seriously this shouldn't even be an excuse, the future of this season and the next years hangs on them sacking Erik, they shouldn't be worried about that money, bigger things at risk here.
Maybe, whether those on that list will come and what they want is another matter.
If these lot are still thinking things can improve...
Aye, I'm fecking fuming. This absolute piss take has gone on for around 18 months now.
He's getting these two games because the results will magically change. The players he wanted will suddenly start playing well together. They'll suddenly start to understand how the feck Ten Hag wants them to play. They'll suddenly make this whole "headless chicken, fullbacks turn into CMs, CFs into wingers and AMs, AMs into strikers" work so we're suddenly not leaving massive holes where players are climbing on top of one another because nobody knows what the feck is going on. They'll suddenly start seeing the manager make reactive tactical changes when things start going wrong, instead of just sitting there going "heheheheh klootzak" and waving his hands around like an animatronic at some bankrupt theme park called "Arsehead Land".
Oh, yeah, things will get better if we give this eejit another couple of games. If we're lucky he might just quit.
Well, seems like players who have done it has had quite the careers elsewhere, sad for us as United fans in som cases. But in this scenario, there must be som kind of player council who can speak as a group?
And Mitten has been backing him for a long time even last season. When Andy think's your time is up you know it's a dire situation.
This is ridiculous. Why are there no performance clauses in manager contracts? Being a football manager is one of the few jobs where you get paid millions for doing a poor job.
Nothing to do with panic. We need to get results and not try to posture while we throw the season away.
At this stage, anyone will be better then our current manager.
Most of us knew it will go this way. Nothing to do with panic. The more he is at the club, the more the club shows how it is badly run.
Hopefully enough for the Glazers to force INEOS to make a decision before they miss out on their dividend.
There's no dividends for 3 years.
Not only are none of us conifdent of getting a result vs Villa a lot of us are wary of getting a battering.
What has he done to this club?
United continue to surprise me with their silliness. If I’m giving them credit though - maybe it’s to give themselves a week to figure out a plan for post-Villa. And then let the caretaker start on a home match against Brentford rather than throw him in for two tricky away matches.
I’d say you’re one of the most positive posters even now, my elevator friend. I keep typing things and then cringing about it 5 mins later. This form is messing with meThe turd that won't flush kinda vibes
Feck, it's depressing how negative i've become - and the season's barely started.
There are, but unlikely so early on in a season. I think there are clauses in terms of league finishes. It used to be cheaper for the Glazers to sack managers once they failed to qualify for the CL.
Becoming a complete laughing stock in the football world seems to be at the top of their list, sadly.
Feck, not even the Glazers can be the voice of reason in all this mess.
They better have a plan, that's all I'll say.
The vast majority of this squad has been signed or promoted by the manager. Rashford pulling out of 50/50 tackles isn't causing the midfield and defence to play like a bunch of uncoached amateurs.
I'm giving him till the New Year because i said I would. But it's really not looking good.
I doubt they give a moments thought to all the media that hangs around us like a bad smell.
Yeah, I changed my vote to EtH out 2/3 into last season - having sat on that fence for quite a while leading up to that point. Then he miraculously survived his end of season review, having won the FA Cup (should have been a good "send off" for him actually when Ineos should have fired him and a clean start for everyone after that point etc.)....
Soooo....i figured "what the hell, might as well be positive and hope he turns it around this season" - i didn't necessarily change my vote to "in" but was looking forward to the season. Feck, I thought I'd at least make it to December with my glass half full shite but it's what, 7-8 games in & I want him to feck off.
He will be removed, it´s all just a matter of days or weeks now. He is a dead man walking.
Yeah angriest I've been for quite a while with United. Pathetic I've let myself get so annoyed but hey ho.
Mid-table form for the best part of a year and we're still talking about hoping for resets.
I've gone from strongly wanting him out of the club, to complete apathy, to genuine confusion as to how he's still here. Actively becoming a worse team for every day that he stays in post.
I've gone from strongly wanting him out of the club, to complete apathy, to genuine confusion as to how he's still here. Actively becoming a worse team for every day that he stays in post.
There's nothing admirable about sticking with a bad decision my friend.
Ten Hag on the sidelines
Likely because they want to give the new guy some decent time to get adjusted, rather than throwing Ruud in there now in two back to back away matches before the International break. I think it's sensible too.
Ridiculous if anywhere near true. Given he probably had a minimum performance clause in his contract for CL qualification. It's seems like incompetence not to take advantage of that and move him on over the summer and gross negliance to compound that by actually extending his contract. There by increasing the pay-off when we inevitably have to sack him a few months into the season.
What fecking fumes were the new set-up wafting over the summer to think any of this was a sound business or football decision?
If this is true regarding the contract extention this summer it just adds to the insane idiocy surrounding our club. I refuse to believe there isn't any result based clauses in the extention, like for instance losing back to back 3-0 at home in the PL...or just plain and obviously doing an absolutely shocking job. I mean it's also beyond reasonable doubt likely that keeping this man in the job will cost us a lot more than 10M a year.
His contract doesn't expire until 2026 now though. They extended it, the baloons.
The only thing that matches his naivety is his stubborness. How are they expecting anything to change?