I’m well and truly done now.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Votes can now be changed
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
How is he not sacked yet?
I agree, 100%. Not doing it would be classic sunk cost fallacy. Would compound an already weak decision
It feels like with every passing hour, a more damning stat is brought up.
You could tell when it was over for Moyes, Ole, Mourinho. It's over for ETH. He won't be the manager next season. The question is when INEOS make the change. They can make it soon and try to save the season. Or they can wait and watch this get worse and be forced to change. We've seen over and over again, how ugly it can get.
Ten Hag took over United 3 months before Unai Emery took over at Villa when they were 18th. Villa are playing Bayern Munich this week, while we’re 12th.
And that will show that they're just as incompetent as Woodward.
The question is simple and straightforward:
Is ETH likely to eventually turn things around and make United successful again by winning the Champions League and the Premiership?
Two possible answers:
"Yes" he will. In which case keep him (and pigs will fly)
or
"No" he will not. In which case what's the point of keeping him even one day longer?
It's the equivalent of an incompetent doctor (ETH) treating an ill patient (Man Utd) by administering an experimental medication that isn't working, and is actually making the condition worse.
You don't say "We'll keep this incompetent doctor for another few weeks or months, and allow him to keep administering this experimental medication that is worsening his condition, until we can appoint a competent doctor who can treat the patient with the correct medication."
Surely it's better to sack him now, and get a locum in for the time being, until a permanent appointment of a competent doctor can be made.
Ok but Emery had it much easier, his squad was almost complete. Don’t forget what EtH said today - Ugarte didn’t have a full pre season with a team. Emery can’t say the same.
He's fecking awful, get rid of this cnut who has burdened us with the likes of Antony and Onana, to name two.
I was against sacking him last season because I couldn't see how anyone could do better than him. Now I can't see how anyone could do any worse. He has no style, no character and he's a total failure in any competition that actually matters.
I was against sacking him last season because I couldn't see how anyone could do better than him. Now I can't see how anyone could do any worse. He has no style, no character and he's a total failure in any competition that actually matters.
We aspire to be like Aston Villa
He'll be gone by 10am.
Please be right!
Just wondering, how many of these players Ten Hag brought in or promoted?
okay cmon , step forward those that were hoodwinked by one game , changed their vote to "keep" on the caf survey post fa cup , and then signed the petition wanting ETH to stay
bloke is an absloute dud , how the board were hoodwinked by 1 game and began throwing out contract extensions remains comical....
bloke is an absloute dud , how the board were hoodwinked by 1 game and began throwing out contract extensions remains comical....
Emery is an interesting one. The job he's done at Villa is staggering given their resources and initial starting position.
To put it into perspective, since the League Cup Win here our the stats for the league:
Club | Games | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Man City | 57 | 43 | 10 | 4 | 140 | 48 | 92 | 139 |
Arsenal | 58 | 39 | 10 | 8 | 139 | 54 | 85 | 130 |
Liverpool | 59 | 38 | 14 | 7 | 135 | 62 | 73 | 128 |
Aston Villa | 58 | 32 | 12 | 13 | 109 | 78 | 31 | 111 |
Newcastle | 59 | 29 | 11 | 18 | 126 | 87 | 39 | 101 |
Man Utd | 58 | 28 | 9 | 21 | 79 | 81 | -2 | 93 |
Tottenham | 57 | 27 | 10 | 20 | 110 | 94 | 16 | 91 |
Chelsea | 58 | 25 | 13 | 19 | 107 | 92 | 15 | 89 |
4th highest points in the league, 5th best GD. 4th best Goals conceded. So fecking impressive.
Pep was playing 5D chess, gifting us the FA cup to prolong the Ten Hag nightmare.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ners-ineos-sacking-him-after-tottenham-defeat
"But we knew it will take some time, how the window went, some players late in like Ugarte.”
Is this a little dig at his bosses?
"But we knew it will take some time, how the window went, some players late in like Ugarte.”
Is this a little dig at his bosses?
The news will be out tomorrow
That is far from winning the tournament. we played 2 whole rounds after that. In fact we went another goal down vs Pool and 2 other players won us the game
It's so impressive that I'd consider him an option despite his failure at Arsenal and PSG. Particularly how he got them playing the way he wanted. Forget the results, how he got them playing is the most impressive part imo.
More of an excuse imo. But yeah could be, if so would be a dangerous game. Still is even if he didn't make an intentional dig.
I am so glad we built this summer a team of a dozen football experts, whom after careful consideration, decided that the best way forward is to burn another season with a clown in charge.
Honestly, as incompetent as Ed Woodward was, he would have sacked this disgrace of a manager several times.
Honestly, as incompetent as Ed Woodward was, he would have sacked this disgrace of a manager several times.
I have been a Utd supporter since I was a kid and remember the Munich air disaster and saw grown men weep. I have seen numerous managers come and go from Sir Matt Busby, the likes of Frank O’Farrell, Dave Sexton and Tommy Docherty plus of course Sir Alex Ferguson. In all that time I can say I have never seen Utd serve up the rubbish football of Eric ten Hag. The above named managers were, apart from Sir Matt, sacked for playing poor football and not winning an awful lot, until Sir Alex arrived on the scene. His era was the best seen in the history of English football in my memory. I stopped going to O.T. when the Glazers arrived and have never been there since, as I consider them as leaches. However, I am now at the stage where I am finding it difficult to watch Utd play on TV because in my opinion this is the worst I have ever seen them play in my lifetime. EtH has got to go and go soon or we could get sucked into a relegation battle even this early in the season. I am getting on in years and would love to see Utd win, or even challenge for, the title before it’s too late. I get more enjoyment at present reading the redcafe postings than watching Utd so thanks to every one of you for your comments. Hope you see a Utd triumph soon,
From a true Red to all of you.
From a true Red to all of you.
Could have been 0-5 at half-time. How is this guy unsackable?? He just can't get sacked! it's ridiculous. And annoying
He gone yet? How is he still talking about a process etc? He's no clue...
Season 1: Ditched playing out from the back after two games to a more counter attack approach, sitting in a mid block.
Season 2: Suddenly decides we're gonna be the best transition team in the world (whatever the feck that means). We get a shitshow of end to end kamikaze ball. Shocking season, injuries yes but way overstated. "Saved" by the fa cup.
Season 3: Perhaps with intervention from INEOS, now seeking more control in games/the new game model, but heh - it'll take time.
So 3rd season and still no defined style/set up that you can as a minimum, see signs of being put into place and you're left wondering what the hell we do in training... What a mess.
Season 1: Ditched playing out from the back after two games to a more counter attack approach, sitting in a mid block.
Season 2: Suddenly decides we're gonna be the best transition team in the world (whatever the feck that means). We get a shitshow of end to end kamikaze ball. Shocking season, injuries yes but way overstated. "Saved" by the fa cup.
Season 3: Perhaps with intervention from INEOS, now seeking more control in games/the new game model, but heh - it'll take time.
So 3rd season and still no defined style/set up that you can as a minimum, see signs of being put into place and you're left wondering what the hell we do in training... What a mess.
Thing is, Spurs weren't "outstanding", at all. Neither were Liverpool. They just did the basics and accepted the gifts they were given by the fecking pub team in front of them.
He is a survivor but not because he is doing anything right. We can lose both of those games 3-0 and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him getting a new contract extension. The treatment of EtH by the club has long passed any logical threshold, it is suicide in an infinite loop, pure masochism.
Any competent team can look "outstanding" against us
Get lost ten Hag. You're not wanted.
But we would have lost if not for Antony's goal
Yep. It has been ETH’s failing, but has since become the first failing of the new decision-makers too. A complete inability to establish any sort of set of standards. At United results like this have become acceptable and expected, rather than the type of event that makes people’s continued employment untenable.
I’m a season ticket holder in the Stretford End, who never leaves early and spends every match standing and chanting, but I find it increasingly weird how part of the fanbase there wants to offer unconditional support to the team and manager, rather than getting mutinous.
Goldbridge still talking shit "it's the players not the manger"
Man is on ETH's payroll, I swear.
Man is on ETH's payroll, I swear.
He does feel unsackable. He's completely immune to everything because we don't want to be a club which doesn't stick by the manager or whatever.
We look absolutely ridiculous, just like we will when we eventually have to give in and sack him, and then replace him with Southgate.
If this happens then it'll be a true surprise that Ineos killed United when the Glazers had only managed to come close.
We look absolutely ridiculous, just like we will when we eventually have to give in and sack him, and then replace him with Southgate.
If this happens then it'll be a true surprise that Ineos killed United when the Glazers had only managed to come close.
Any rumours about him getting sacked? Only at United can you survive these kind of performances and still keep your job. Madrid would have fired him at HT.
And he knows this. You could tell it in the post match interview, he just knows he will never get sacked, at least until the summer. He isn't bothered the slightest.
Why is he still manager. The glaziers would be proud how much of a fecking fraud the guy is.
No to RVN either. Shite at PSV and is now part of the problem. A clean sweep is needed under SJR.
No to RVN either. Shite at PSV and is now part of the problem. A clean sweep is needed under SJR.
He is an idiot because 90% of the starting xi is ETH’s