Not remotely surprising.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Not remotely surprising.
Shouldn’t last the night, shocking and process isn’t working or has a direction.
Inzaghi
Don't do it
20% still want the philosopher around. I do wonder what is necessary to convince these people that wasting another season while waiting for a miracle is just madness.
I dont disagree; its time for him to go he's not getting that. But people saying Klopp comes in and makes this team a title winner; I dont buy it.
A serious club would sack him tomorrow. Liverpool done it with Rodgers in early October after a 1-1 against Everton. And, he had a better record than ETH this season.
I don’t think we are one to be honest. We prefer to romanticize managers.
There won't be any turning around imo. He's already crossed the Rubicon with the fan base and there's no coming back at this point. Every day that he remains a manager at United is a day lost in terms of the long term interests of the club.
I'm at the point where I wish he was sacked in the summer, and this thread was about the new guy who is failing and how we shouldn't have sacked Ten Hag.
only 8 games into the season, and Liverpool were tenth at the time
Yeah he has to go now.
Just rip the bandaid fast. He is not Arteta, he won't have a second coming. Some of his decisions are head-scratchers already.
His statement today that he needs absolute 100% from each player is truly telling, and almost all the players lost every duel in the first half. This tells me that the writing is on the wall for him. We had to start this season steadily, he had enough personnel added, both players and coaches, not to have the issues of last year. Yet, we seem worse than we did.
I had sympathy for him last year, but this is now inexcusable. You may lose a match, but not so many matches in this manner. I'm sorry, but he needs to go.
- Played Rashford and Eriksen almost the complete game against Barnsley at OT, even after a 3-0 lead by halftime still kept them in play, only for Rashford to be benched vs Palace, and Eriksen not to have legs for the complete game. Once he took Eriksen off v Palace, our complete gameplay collapsed
- Southampton, the absolute worst team in the league dominated us for half an hour and were not leading due to a bad penalty. I'm not even sure we would've won that, if they had scored the penalty
- Today, Tottenham is bad at deep defending, yet, we decide to play on the counter, at OT? We started playing pressing and really going after them after we got down to 10 players?
- Shocking defending at Brighton
- Demolished by Liverpool with the wrong tactical setup clearly visible
- Cant beat freaking Twente, while our own players coming out saying "They wanted it more than us"
His statement today that he needs absolute 100% from each player is truly telling, and almost all the players lost every duel in the first half. This tells me that the writing is on the wall for him. We had to start this season steadily, he had enough personnel added, both players and coaches, not to have the issues of last year. Yet, we seem worse than we did.
I had sympathy for him last year, but this is now inexcusable. You may lose a match, but not so many matches in this manner. I'm sorry, but he needs to go.
Utter nonsense
This. Our major problem. Lets see is Ineos the same.
Title winner? At this point, Klopp could come in and finish 4th, with us scoring plenty of goals and playing relatively well and it'd be a significant enough improvement. The bar has sunk so low it's not even visible anymore at this club, we're rock bottom.
Dont worry guys. Well ha e this sorted by 2038
Very true.
We do things differently 'ere
Yup, similar circumstances.
Totally agree. I'm hoping now that ETH is the last one that gets crazy money to spend and way too much time. Hopefully the fans can move away from the whole manager worshipping phase too.
Ineos botched the call. No doubt in my mind. But the fans have to take their fair share of the blame. The clamour to keep him after that one game was insufferable. If they’d fired him they’d have received absolute pelters. And if the new manager had struggled out of the gate, it’d have been toxic. There are a lot of people who need to learn lessons from this.
I would love to see a roll call of all those who argued vehemently this summer to keep him, against the more level headed amongst us, against those who are now calling for his head and blaming Ineos. I bet there is so much overlap that it’s embarrassing. Just a massive lack of accountability from the fans.
Good job I aren't one then.Ole is class. His disciples are nob heads. That's always been the case
There has to come a point where these performances are just not acceptable anymore.
He can’t have any complaints either. He’s been given more time than he would at 99% of clubs. You could argue he shouldn’t even have been here long enough to win that FA Cup last season, but he was given another chance and more than enough backing.
He can’t have any complaints either. He’s been given more time than he would at 99% of clubs. You could argue he shouldn’t even have been here long enough to win that FA Cup last season, but he was given another chance and more than enough backing.
On borrowed time now is Ten Hag however if its Southgate brought in as his replacement it will tell me Jim is not the man to fix this broken club
6 games in and we are already essentially out of the race. Happened last season too didnt it?
feck off ETH you are shite
feck off ETH you are shite
It's not a poor squad but it is, well, a bit of a strange mishmash squad. You look it on paper and think there are options, some good players, plenty of potential but I have no clue what the best team is and I don't think EtH does either.
Course you're not.
Can't wait to see your reactions down the line when ETH's spell is romanticised: 3 finals, 2 cups, 3rd place, 2nd highest points total post-Fergie. The power of revisionism is strong on RedCafe, especially when you let enough time lapse.
Hopefully this is the last manager that has such a weird obsessive fan base. We've had it with Jose, Ole and now ETH. It's fecking draining.
and the decisions to sack Rodgers was decided before the game and was announced an hour after full time.
I want Ten Hag to succeed, but even though it's early in the season, it's not worth ruining our season in persisting with this
But have you seen where we are in some of the metrics tables?
As high as 6th or 8th in some of them.
The race for a top half finish? Probably.
Have to concentrate on the el and cups after 6 games. Bad days
Just googling up the details. They had 12 points from 8 when we're on 7 from 6.
They'd played away at Arsenal, United and Everton in their derby, dropping points in all 3. We've been away to Brighton, Southampton and Palace, dropping points in 2 while getting embarrased at home by good teams.
So not without precedent to get booted so early, and you've got to say they had better results / harder games.
That's a ridiculous theory.