This was so predictable when everybody turncoated over one game. I can’t believe how naive people were.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
If they bin him now the board are going to look like idiots. It will become obvious he should have gone after last years stink show, and not have stayed and been given a load more money to spend on Ducth league players. Whoever comes in will have missed a transfer window and been without a pre season. He is absolutely not going anywhere.
He'll now win some mickey mouse cup and everyone would want us to stick to him
No.
I think it's Tick Tock time
I tnink one more week and this nightmare will be over. He'll survive this one, but our next two games are certain loses. Then there's two-week break for international games so it's a perfect moment to get rid of this fecker
We don't do this to managers, the managers do this to us. Theirs no magic, its just bad decisions. ETH was good at Ajax, but it was Ajax in the dutch league. A league with much lower quality than the EPL. It was always a risk. Our job as a club was to monitor him and watch to see if he had the quality to actually match the standard we were looking for, which is what any big club who isn't hiring Guardiola or Klopp does. Instead we did what we always do, we crown the manager as a messiah and give them the free will to do any and everything they want to do without question. They ALWAYS have a slow start, yet we ALWAYS end up holding their hand and trying to will them to success. They always have a small spell of good football, which then convinces fans that they will be able to replicate it over the course of a season. It never happens.
The reason we fall for this trap is because our fans don't watch or monitor other teams. Other teams sack managers and monitor their performance. United fans instead blame players and ALWAYS push for a rebuild. Regardless of how average a United team is, they should always be able to play well against teams that they are better than. They don't ever show this, so fans lean and stick to blind faith. Things inevitably don't change and the situation has to get so bad that seasons are completely ruined. This "back the manager" culture is our problem. It breeds arrogance and wastes time. Spurs do not have better players than us and I bet if you swapped xi's, we would be destroying Spurs. Blame Rashford, Bruno and anyone, but the fact is, the tactics are leaving our players badly exposed.
I saw some vague links to him after INEOS joined. We should have started sounding out managers much before the season ended rather than dallying on the decision till we did. It was pretty obvious that ETH wasn't the answer. We won the FA cup and INEOS pussied out of making their first tough decision.
So the first 42 minutes where we was dominated won’t make a difference?
Oh yes it was amazing mate, sure we didn't actually score but based on those ineffective 45 minutes against a shite side things are looking very promising. Or so I've heard.
Doesn’t matter now since going down to 10 according to him and his supporters.
But you have to remember, not all of his players had a full pre season.
This isn't on the players, it's just a totally over complicated mess of a system
I mean, the whole of last season and a 0-3 humiliation this season made no difference the moment we played well for 3 games against bad teams.
He does that all the time. Likes to focus on one specific and get involved in a macro debate instead of discussing the bigger picture and issues. My money is on the sending off being todays focal point instead of the manager.
Doesn’t even seem to take that. Beating Porto will be enough for a large chunk of people to soften their stance
Thank you. I think everyone (ex opposition fans) here wants the best for United. This manager's record has been awful for a long time now. Yes, the circumstances aren't optimal but they never are. He has been given more time here than any top club would have and he just isn't up for it for whatever reason.
It is time to make the change NOW and try to salvage the season. Under the right manager, we can go on a run and easily compete for top 4 as I believe our squad is capable of competing.
I’d be surprised if he survives this. It’s either RvN if they think the season is a wash or they’re practically ringing Tuchel before the game is even done.
It’s the same old story that whenever he’s up against a manager who can think and a measure of similar resources, he’s caught completely out. He’s not good enough for this league and he can take his two tin cups and brag about all of it at FC Cornflakes of Niemejigen in Dutch land.
It’s the same old story that whenever he’s up against a manager who can think and a measure of similar resources, he’s caught completely out. He’s not good enough for this league and he can take his two tin cups and brag about all of it at FC Cornflakes of Niemejigen in Dutch land.
But they're not shite apparently*, some had built that game up as an away trip against prime Barca.
*they have 4 points after 6 games.
That's what's become really clear. Other teams produce that half almost every time. I don't think our fans realize how consistently bad our play is compared to other teams. That FA Cup win was not worth keeping him.
Dismal performance once again. He will be loving the fact we have had a sending off as it will be used as an excuse. However, nothing this manager does works. Sometimes it is said he can't be blamed for individual mistakes or poor performances but our tactical set up is non existent. None of these players know what our build up play should look like. We play to Ugarte who then hits it back to the defense making it easier for them to press. All of our attacking balls have gone to Rashford and Garnacho had been largely anonymous. Even when the ball does fall our way we seem so surprised we end up giving it away anyway. Some of our players want to press high whilst others want to sit deep. We are supposed to be a high quality transition team (that's what ETH wants) but we are shocking at it. Our defence are put under so much pressure due to our set up that we end up making mistakes.
Spurs know who to play it to and they are focused on through balls and good movement to.enable it. They press well when we build from the back. It's a system. When we get it we haven't a clue. We just hit it back to Onana and hope they just go for a drinks break to give us some space.
He needs to go. Useless.
Spurs know who to play it to and they are focused on through balls and good movement to.enable it. They press well when we build from the back. It's a system. When we get it we haven't a clue. We just hit it back to Onana and hope they just go for a drinks break to give us some space.
He needs to go. Useless.
It's genuinely such a bewildering thought process. I even remember people saying stuff like "the players clearly like him, look how they reacted at the cup win. he deserves another season". All because players were celebrating the cup, as if they were supposed to be frowning and pushing him away.
To use that as a reason to keep a manager over the mountains of evidence he's shit and a bust? Insanity
Has to go now. feck it just do it please
It's on them and the manager. They aren't good enough.
He needs to go.
Sacked in the morning.
INEOS needs to drop the sack at FT whistle. Don't bottle it.
Time to go. Enough is enough.
On your bike sunshine.
Oh well, time to boot up the next three-year cycle.
I completely wrote this season off the day they announced Ten Hag was staying, so not too stressed by how shit we are
It's over
Yikes. He's gone tomorrow.
Looks like his HT hairdryer did the work.
I can only laugh.2-3 more goals
Pour yourself a beer lads, the nightmare is almost over. We’re in the final stretch.
fecking hell
feck this.....
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