I've never heard this negative perspective from Ajax fans before? Was that actually a widespread feeling or just a minority?
These sort of views were given by Ajax fans in the 'next manager' thread we had. Obviously many were convinced of Erik and it fell completely on deaf ears at the time.
Arteta was shit for two years
As somebody that said throughout that I could see what Arteta was trying to do and thought he was making the right moves, even when Arsenal fans were losing their shit, I don't think they're even comparable for me.
With Arteta I could see a clear gameplan, one that is utilised by the best teams around. Energy, possession, good interplay and creativity. His issue was that he had a true clear out of deadwood and poor characters, relying on youth. Something I said many times on here that I wished we'd do the same but knew we wouldn't because of the short term pain that we wouldn't be willing to take.
As somebody that could see Arteta playing good football, I'll say right now that I don't see this at all with ETH. With what is a considerably better team than what Arteta had at the time.
He's shown enough that he should be in charge next season, even in the event that we lose top 4. It took Arteta a few years to get Arsenal into a proper outfit.
See above. I'm sick of these comparisons to Fergie's first years and other managers. Judge him based on what you see rather than these fantasy hypotheticals.
I'm perplexed, I have lost all confidence in him but part of me is telling me that's it's a bit too early for that
I'm the same. I know he can't hang with the best. But it feels almost courtesy to give him more time to fail.
Most over hyped manager ever. Weghorst as number 10
At Ajax we had the same problem with eth with him playing Promes and Labyad as 10, both disgraceful to be number 10. He even played Labyad as main striker.
Very very stubborn tunnel vision manager. Prefers to play his buddies at al costs. Most at ajax where happy he was gone. He even played Sebastian Haller as a winger for quite a few matches in his last season
Haller is slow as hell and lacks creativity and dribbling skills
Christ, that's all worrying. Didn't know that about Haller.
There's a fine line as a manager between being an idiot and being a genius. Pep makes weird choices that just work. He's got the eye for it. Sadly, I don't think ETH does. This sort of stuff doesn't work in the PL.
What are we actually trying to achieve in or out of possession. We don't really press, we aren't a possession based team, we don't counter attack that much. All we seem to at the moment is pass the ball slowly at the back until the opposition is set and then give the ball away when we have to play through the lines
I understand the players are tired but surely we should still see some sort of structure and style?
I've said the same for a while. I just don't see what we are trying to be and it's definitely not a pressing team or a possession team.
Even if I overlook this issue with poor second halves, not being able to score, Wout at no. 10, I just don't think the football is that great. I called Oles tactics opportunistic early doors and said it's unsustainable, and I feel the same here. Trying to catch teams on the break is shit house stuff, as soon as they become wise to it, which teams now have, you're left with nothing. There's 2 ways to exploit this, and we've seen it lots recently. Either press the shit out of us, or leave us with the ball and defend compact. Today West Ham did the latter and we, unsurprisingly, looked absolutely clueless. We pretty much boiled down to crosses and long shots.