I don't want him on the pitch unless we are winning by 3 goals at least (which never happens). I'm sick to death of seeing play for the team. He makes us play with 10 players
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Yeah, I'd love to see some experimentation and tactical flexibility with our attacking line. No guarantees it'll work, but it's better than bringing on Wout, which is guaranteed to not work.
I want people to stop being petulant brats and understand what has been asked of these players the latter half of the season. How do you not understand that?You want people to pretend this is OK?
Training? We don't have time for anything. Ever since the WC we've averaged a game every 3 days. There is barely any time for training. Just rest and prepare for the next opponent.
And Ole also won a total of 0 trophies. Your point?
ETH's play style relies on intensity. That means our players have to give 100% at any given moment. The problem is that we have a paper thin squad and a super stacked schedule.
So to answer your question: our players are simply knackered. They don't have any more stamina to do a full 90 minutes of ETH ball. Only 45
Dunno, maybe some other team that starts with M.
All i'll say is he better make the top 4 or his seat is going to get very hot going into next season. This is modern day football. £200m spent does not give you time. Particularly with the state the club is in these days. He has to deliver that CL spot THIS SEASON after spending that much on his own players.
I also see very very similar traits with Solksjaer. Particularly with his in-game decision making. His calm demeanor on the bench means absolutely nothing when his decision making resembles that of a deer in headlights.
I also see very very similar traits with Solksjaer. Particularly with his in-game decision making. His calm demeanor on the bench means absolutely nothing when his decision making resembles that of a deer in headlights.
Dont think he made a particular error today. Subs were late but considering how the match played out, there weren't any obvious moves. I think, he isn't pragmatic enough, he is adamant of sticking to his play, being aggressive in attack and press their defenders. Even if tthe team itself isn't capable of doing it and the distances get way to big... No minus points in my eyes. But a chance to get bonus points passed.
I think if we can see it through and get top 4 it will be an acceptable season. We are so much more solid defensively and in possession. Unfortunately I don't see much improvement in our pattern of play in attacking areas. If we fail to get top 4 from this position I don't see how it can be viewed as acceptable and considering he purchased 4/5 players I can't see him deserving a second season.
Really needs to improve on this next season
Good luck with that in here.
We just need to scrape over the line into top 4. Then we can get some suitable additions in the summer and Erik can get them properly training again and have a fresh go of it next season. Next season will be where we see if he is really going to be the one to bring the glory days back.
In the meantime it'll be amazing if we can somehow smash and grab the FA cup final as unlikely as that looks.
In the meantime it'll be amazing if we can somehow smash and grab the FA cup final as unlikely as that looks.
Which subs, tonight for example, are you referring to?
Truth is, our previous managers put together a number of teams that are lethal at counter attacking. However, with ETH, we're clearly pushing to be a possession based team but a load of our players are simply not comfortable on the ball. I know Eriksen was poor against Villa but without him, we have absolutely nobody outside of the defence who can actually keep the ball under pressure and pick out a pass. I'm glad this game has gone, still think we're making top 4. After West Ham, we'll have plenty of rest in between games and we can go in with our best (possible) XI. Having someone as shit as Fred in the middle where we need to keep the ball is going to hinder us every time - not simply blaming him but there's a massive drop off when Eriksen doesn't play and Fred takes his place.
Then you better ask yourself how is Ten Hag is not already embarrassing himself. Until we can go at it on the transfer market again, his job description also includes looking at solutions from the inside.
If he does not trust some of the adults on the team, then give the opportunities to a few kids like you would expect from a former Ajax man. I prefer seeing Joe Hugill coming on for 30-35 minutes rather than seeing Anthony Martial laying eggs or Weghorst ghosting in front of goal. I also prefer seeing Pellistri being given a shot at playing the inverted winger role on the left rather than seeing more of Jadon "Big Pussy" Sancho doing nothing again.
Half the players are shite, that's why! And he knows this!
Everyone who moans about ETH, look at Klopp's first Liverpool side:
And now look at their 11. Klopp gutted that team over time.
ETH will do the same. We can't keep sacking managers because you lot have no patience.
We've played midweek fixtures consecutively almost half a year. We've lost both starting center backs to injury. If you don't understand the effects of these things, maybe football is not for you. Go watch senior golf nobody gets tired there.
What new age football? We have the 6th highest possession in the league, closer to Wolves than the likes of City, Liverpool and Arsenal, and Brighton have had vastly more possession than us twice in 2 weeks. We're not really playing any discernable style yet because Ten Hag is a pragmatist who is trying to get through this season with a flawed squad playing a huge number of games in a season congested due to the World Cup.
His brand of football is shit. He's been given €250m on top of a group of players that most managers could only dream of so don't give me that he's got shit squad.
That was because our manager was chasing a midfielder who didn't want to come though. That's why there was a delay.
Plenty of positives, numerous negatives. Cutting losses on Antony and Sancho in the summer should be a priority with recycling whatever money they can generate into one impactful wide player
Maybe this is his ceiling?
At least these recent games will help paint a clearer picture for Ten Hag. He will surely know now he cannot continue with the likes of Martial, Fred, Sancho et. al.
You haven’t been watching us the whole season clearly, our away form against top 12 is shocking, and that goes back to the start of the season when tiredness wasn’t an excuse. But if it makes you feel better keep on believing that.
There’s no way we will sell Antony and we won’t be able to sell Sancho, his wages are way too high.
Why does he keep bringing on Weghorst?
Like what is it achieving ?
Everytime he comes on we literally lose any sort of attacking momentum. We were getting back into that game today and he throws on the donkey again.
Anthony Elanga is very very shit but he has pace and he isn’t as shit as Weghorst: dump him up front.
The minute Weghorst comes on, the opposition know they can relax and push up the pitch.
I can’t actually fathom how he keeps doing this. If we drop out the top four this season it will be predominantly his fault for insisting on this stupidity.
Like what is it achieving ?
Everytime he comes on we literally lose any sort of attacking momentum. We were getting back into that game today and he throws on the donkey again.
Anthony Elanga is very very shit but he has pace and he isn’t as shit as Weghorst: dump him up front.
The minute Weghorst comes on, the opposition know they can relax and push up the pitch.
I can’t actually fathom how he keeps doing this. If we drop out the top four this season it will be predominantly his fault for insisting on this stupidity.
equating criticism and questioning with being petulant brats is a bit odd. It can’t all be praise. we’re not a cult.
Your posts are shit.
Fair enough. But then you have Brighton* and Newcastle* who actually can pass, and one might wonder if the players are not the only problem.
* Both with managers who didn't need more than two weeks to have the team playing nice football. Unlike United where the first year is for manager to 'learn'.
I know. And a final that we lost on penalties (still lost, I know). Did the players let him down and are now doing the same to ETH? This has gone on for 10 years plus now. Maybe an easy excuse but I think there's something rotten at the heart of the club and it needs cutting out in order for us to improve. There is no soul at the club any more, and it starts - imo - with the toxicity that's in control.
This is what I mean. We bring in different managers, bring in different players, but we always revert back to type. It's been going on for years. We're basically in exactly the same place as we were post-Moyes. Some decent players, some terrible players, glaring weaknesses in certain positions; lack of pressing; unable to keep possession. It's like we're cursed and we simply cannot play modern football no matter what we change. Either that or the core group of players at United are utter dickheads who keep sabotaging our progress
Tbh, even early in the season, when the matches weren't as frequent as now, Brighton still played clearly better than Man Utd. There is a curse placed on our club.
We are just not meant to play consistently well
edit:@AndySmith1990 we basically posted the same thing
Cool story bro. Now feck off back to the newbies.
He is being pragmatic, but God, I hate the football we play. It's Oleball shit all over again. I hate counter-attacking football. I'm hoping this is growing pains, but the situation in the team looks as dire as ever. He must deliver a different brand and quality of football next season.
No - but they have a better team
Who gives a flying feck. It's absolutely a factor now
No, I meant the manager. Who would you replace ETH with end of the season (if you were in charge etc etc)
The mind boggles, we would be better off with ten men.
Joe and Ole were heavily criticised on here for lack of rotation. ETH should be no different. If we are running out if steam its on him. We should have prioritised the league. League cups,Europa Leagues or FA cups won't cut it long term.
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