Has he really done so much better than them in the cups? Arteta also won FA Cup and took them to an EL final while Klopp got to two European finals including one CL final. You need to include European performance if you are going to assess performance outside of league.
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Has he really done so much better than them in the cups? Arteta also won FA Cup and took them to an EL final while Klopp got to two European finals including one CL final. You need to include European performance if you are going to assess performance outside of league.
The Southgate links just aren’t going away. In the words of Elon Musk, this is “very concerning”.
That’s the thing, wanting ETH out is one thing, but you can’t just ignore the replacements that are reported.
Yes, thats what I mean they want Ten Hag out knowing there is a good possibility Southgate will be 1st choice.
These rumours have been going around since INEOS took over.
The reason I dont want him sacked is I dont really rate Southgate.
Southgate incoming to make us Brexit FC?
Hope to feck ten Hag resists the campaign to remove him, and this dangerous, ideological appointment is avoided at all costs.
Hope to feck ten Hag resists the campaign to remove him, and this dangerous, ideological appointment is avoided at all costs.
Surely it's just too long to wait for Southgate?
At least Southgate will be the first post-Fergie manager that doesn't have a c u l t following.
Mostly from shit sources.
If there's a good possibility Southgate is the number 1 choice then it's really irrelevant if they keep Ten Hag or not. We're screwed anyway under the new regime then if that's the best they can come up with.
At least one positive.I refuse to believe that the people who have headhunted the likes of Berrada, Wilcox, Ashworth etc will turn around and appoint fecking Gareth Southgate as the new manager… someone who all Premier League teams (apart from maybe the relegated teams), wouldn’t hire.
If Palace can entice someone like Glasner and West Ham with Lopetegui, there’s no chance United would entertain Southgate.
Southgate’s agent has done a brilliant job of putting his name with us in the year Southgate’s contract with England is up, to put pressure on England to extend him.
If Palace can entice someone like Glasner and West Ham with Lopetegui, there’s no chance United would entertain Southgate.
Southgate’s agent has done a brilliant job of putting his name with us in the year Southgate’s contract with England is up, to put pressure on England to extend him.
If they really are obsessed with giving Southgate the job, maybe it's better to just get it out the way. He won't last the season and there will hopefully still be some decent replacements knocking around that can come in mid-season to rescue us from the abyss.
Where has all this Southgate bollox originated from? It's honestly like one big massive wum.
If we sack Ten Hag for Southgate, we definitely are in big big trouble.
For anyone who thinks this regime is here to win things, it is a clear indication its not.
An easy and hopefully lazy link as he's Ashworth & Brailsford's mate
Unless England fail to qualify from their group...
That's the hope. I haven't heard anything of substance.
ITs been around since INEOS took over, which is why I actually do think they want Southgate.
It all makes sense. Ashworth worked with him at England.
We have heard rumours about Southgate more than any other manager since they took over.
They taking time sacking Ten Hag which means they know they can wait till End of July to get him
Thats what it is.
Southgate keeps getting mentioned but he's still 11/1 to be the next manager.
It just seems to be an easy link to make and journalists know it'll get more attention. It doesn't seem workable this summer even if they wanted to make that move.
It just seems to be an easy link to make and journalists know it'll get more attention. It doesn't seem workable this summer even if they wanted to make that move.
Yeah but if we keep Ten Hag under the same regime that thought Southgate was the man to take us forward, then we have no hope anyway.
I don't believe for one second a group of professionals, supposedly highly rated at what they do would come on here and choose Southgate. I'd bet it's complete bollocks and it's a matter of either keeping Ten Hag or picking a suitable candidate like Tuchel or Poch.
Because maybe they aren't keeping him but will remain radio silence until replacement is secured
I might fall off the edge once I go far enough, based on flat earthers logic. That doesn’t stop me from travelling.
Worrying about Southgate and thus not wanting Eth gone is the silliest notion out there. If we are that worried that Ineos will act like this, then might as well get Southgate in, so that we can get the club to close up now itself.
Brailsford and Ashworth have worked with him in the past and reportedly rate him highly. They must not have been paying much attention to England in the past few years, though - Southgate is the biggest weakness in an otherwise highly talented group - England's relative success in recent years has been in spite of Southgate and our failures, largely due to his conservative approach and reticence to make bold decisions. The dull football hasn't helped his cause to be seriously considered for coaching jobs at big clubs, either - if United appoint him, opposition fans will rejoice while the media will label us a laughing stock.
I don't want Southgate, but that is because I really hate his football philosophy. It's zero risk or freedom football. If you're having a good day and want to bring yourself down, take a look at the England lineup for the EUROs final and rewatch that game. That should make anyone bald and miserable.
With ETH. He's just not the man and if we continue the regression we had this season, we'll end up bottom half of the table with relegation zone in play. There's nothing indicating he'll turn this around. He just hasn't got the tools or skills to manage a club like ours. It's too big and it's too much pressure.
But Ashworth isn’t even employed by the club yet. It’s pure speculation based on those two working together previously.
If it was just Ashworth & Ratcliffe making the call I'd be worried that Southgate might actually happen but Berrada and Wilcox hopefully have a lot more sense. Not a chance he'd get hired for City.
Unless they're secretly still on the City payroll and have been sent here to destroy us
Unless they're secretly still on the City payroll and have been sent here to destroy us
Don't be so sure.
No way its Southgate. Why interview others if he is the priority.
I'm gona go with a guess and say Poch be new manager and be announced after soccer aid this weekend as he is in charge as manager for one of the teams involved.
I'm gona go with a guess and say Poch be new manager and be announced after soccer aid this weekend as he is in charge as manager for one of the teams involved.
Yeah thank God it's not a tier 1 saying it, although they haven't squashed the Southgate links either
Yep we wouldn't want to ruin his preparation for that, a proper big test for him.
Soccer Aid is his level.
That’s not true. I reckon he’d have similar type of success nowadays. During the bad spell the United board said they saw how much work is done is by him behind the scenes and how hard he’s working and they decide that this will eventually pay off. We fans don’t see the full picture unfortunately. Not to mention that what he did with previous club to break the Celtic and Rangers domination is impressive. If you do this you have some credit in the bank as well.
This.
Southgate wasn't mentioned by Matt Lawton and Charlotte Duncker in the Times who had the original story about us reaching out to potential replacements. They reported that the shortlist is Tuchel, Poch, McKenna and Frank. Of course McKenna is now off the table.
More importantly, who reads this s*** and gets excited? Apparently a lot of people.
Yeah we caused enough of a fan backlash for Arnautovic not to be signed or Greenwood brought back so surely we can do same about Southgate
You are underestimating the yellow waistcoats movement
United had a better ppg under Ten Hag in the EL in 22/23 (2.16) than Klopp had with Liverpool in 15/16 (1.77). This despite United only making it to QFs and Liverpool reaching the final. It's why ppg is not the most useful metric to evaluate cup runs.
And what option from the other managers would be best showcas of ambition from them? From what the media has told (I think they have no clue) the candidates don’t excite (except McKenna but that’s off now). We are again fishing with the same typical names as we would with Glazers before.
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