Arteta finished 8th in his first couple of seasons. Klopp didn't qualify for the CL last year. If you hold them to the same standards they would have been sacked already.
I think Arteta was lucky to survive but so what, he is not ETH, and Arsenal are not Utd these comparisons are baseless, and Klopp had more than enough in the bank to survive a bad season, the only thing ETH has is a bag is his balls and they need kicking!
And yet so many people are banking on ETH somehow becoming a good tactician in the closed season.... this whole thing is ridiculous, keep or get rid of ETH but people need to stop deluding themselves, comparing ETH with Arteta and Klopp, there is no realistic comparison to be made, different teams, different set ups different everything and yet it would seem people on here think there is some kind of guaranteed correlation between the length of time a manager has and their ability to create a successful team....
These posters attribute some kind of tangible relationship between Klopp, Arteta and even SAF... like these are the only 3 managers they can find examples of where they have turned things around because they were given time, so that is 3 managers, how many managers have died on there arse despite being given time.
Lets be pragmatic... which is more likely ETH stays and fails or ETH stays and succeeds? given our performances last season it is a much safer bet to get rid of ETH than it is to keep him, unless he has promised INEOS that he will not being playing madball next season, what is stopping him starting next season again with no midfield?
So lets ignore the whole Arteta, Klopp thing, lets ignore injuries, politics, distractions..... what are the arguments for keeping ETH, he hasn't lost the dressing room and he has won 2 trophies.... against keeping him, he managed to pretty much break every negative record he could last season, cost us at least £75m by persisting with an impossible setup and game plan, had us playing the worst football I have ever seen a top flight team play.
I am not going to cry into my porridge if ETH stays, and if he does I will hope against hope that he does turn it around, I do not want him to fail, however if we do keep him I fear the damage he is doing to the team, especially the money he is losing us hand over fist, we simply cannot afford another season like the last, it will cripple us financially, IMO given the abject shite we have been severed this season I would rather have any manager who is likely to get us back top 4-5 than risk ETH.