Imagine Madrid sticking with a manager that served up an 8th place finish in La Liga with negative goal difference and giving him a third season
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
Do you really think the squad of last season or this one gets anywhere near a title challenge? I mean, really? If you think any manager in world football can get this team to challenge for league and champions leagues then I don't know what to say.
If you think he should have got top 4 that's a much fairer argument.
Twenty losses needs to be mentioned here.
I know we can't take another transfer saga like it, but Frenkie De Jong, if he really is available, would be a perfect swap-in for that Amrabat slot, if we continue to build on the style we were developing in the fa cup final.
But but would you say the same if he had won Copa Del Ray
One candidate down. Ten Hag is definitely leaving. A statement backing him up would’ve been put out by now.
This based on Luckhurst?
Ten Hag can stay but ;
1.He shouldn't be allowed to choose players otherwise we will get more Antonys.
2.He should be scrutinised very heavily come next season; any more of the garbage of this season, off he goes even if it is early season.
Truth is that the FA cup win does buy him time but we cannot ignore how poor we've been all season with/without injuries and if they fire him, it wouldn't be grave sin.
My head says he goes, my heart says let him stay with above conditions.
1.He shouldn't be allowed to choose players otherwise we will get more Antonys.
2.He should be scrutinised very heavily come next season; any more of the garbage of this season, off he goes even if it is early season.
Truth is that the FA cup win does buy him time but we cannot ignore how poor we've been all season with/without injuries and if they fire him, it wouldn't be grave sin.
My head says he goes, my heart says let him stay with above conditions.
If we keep him and go out next year and continue to get spanked I want an auto suspension list on everyone here that changed their tune and wanted to keep him post FA cup win
Somebody seriously needs to design a powerful laser and etch, in massive letters on the surface of the moon, "FRENKIE DE JONG DOESN'T WANT TO feckING COME TO UNITED"
Real Madrid have sacked managers for winning the La Liga unconvincingly. I wish we had that Flo Perez type of ruthlessness.
Real have sacked managere who've finished 2nd and won trophies.
Think Del Bosque got the boot after winning the CL
Not really in the Forest one, I was there for that and we conceded two stupid goals 4 mins in (a corner counter attack, and then a set piece) and it was one way traffic until we took the lead (and then we just hung on at the end).
If the club want him to stay I'll back him as he's the manager of the club I support.
However, there are a number of signs from this season that say hearts are ruling heads. If he had copped himself on over a month ago we could have been talking about champions league qualification. He's too stubborn and if we have another injury plagued season are we still going to use the excuses from last year?
However, there are a number of signs from this season that say hearts are ruling heads. If he had copped himself on over a month ago we could have been talking about champions league qualification. He's too stubborn and if we have another injury plagued season are we still going to use the excuses from last year?
20!!! And people want to “see the project through” as if we’ve just been super unlucky but have seen periods of greatness when fit (in reality we’ve been crap for 18 months but who’s counting?)
That's still too light of a midfield for me. Mainoo is such a talent but I think we need a much more robust midfielder alongside him if we're going to make this high intensity, aggressive style work.
For all his flaws — his record in domestic finals has been strong. The first FA Cup final could’ve been different if we didn’t have De Gea sabotage within a minute, too.
Downright abysmal in the CL, though.
Yes I was confusing the Forest game with another, but the point stands that 3/4 were basketball games even with our first choice partnership.
It's not seen through until it's been 38 losses. Then we might have to sit down and have a think about how long the new contract should be.
There's a reason they're playing for a record 15th CL next weekend while we've gone 11 years without a league title and 16 without a CL
One game is starting to turn the tide. What about the other 50 we all had to suffer through. Only a handful of games I could say he did a good job at coaching.
We've followed the criteria laid down by Gill when Fergie's replacement was being considered? Right.
I just hope that if we are keeping him then that’s a decision INEOS had made before the cup final itself. We have no hope if people running the club are also making decisions based on a one off cup result
Yep. They sacked Benitez 3 months in because it was obvious he wasn’t working out. And then people are astonished that they can maintain success year after year. Highest standards in football, there’s a reason they’ve won that many UCL’s and it’s not because they “back the manager” no matter what.
We only made the champions league quater finals twice in the last 11 years.
They haven't even built a new stadium yet. Mugs
But what if we have injuries? It doesn’t count then, just rotten luck and need to wait until he has his first choice XI
If Real win next weekend they'll have won twice as many CLs since SAF retired than we have in our entire history
Yep. We have just as much buying power and world influence yet have been run like a clown show while fans endlessly drop their standards lower and lower (I just read an excuse for fecking Antony of all players). Yet Madrid and their supporters demand quality performances and effort on the pitch at all times no matter your standing or history at the club.
If anthony was at real there would be a mob outside the ground baying for his blood.
Agree with all of this and didn’t want him to go, but sadly I wasn’t surprised at all and with the news of McKenna staying at Ipswich, I’m quite worried about who we get next.
Antony is worse than all of those players other than maybe Schneiderlin. Even Donny looked a much better prospect and had done/ produced more than Antony.
Comfortably the worst signing we've made post-Fergie in terms of price paid for proven quality (Fred at 50 million runs that close but I think he had a good career with us) and then for price compared to actual output
He would have been banished to the reserves about 4 months in and then sold for nothing the next window (in truth they wouldn’t have let a manager bully them into paying 80m for a mediocre Dutch league winger in the first place but)
He's a goner, otherwise INEOS would have made a statement by now. Gareth Southgate is going to be the next manager.
"I'm seeing double here......four ITK's!!"
Lottery numbers?
If the PL distributed money like La Liga does when we were top dogs, United would have won basically every domestic trophy every year and gone deep in the CL every year as well.
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