Well if you’re prepared to change him you’re not committing to him
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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We wouldn't have. There was a point in the last decade when we had a huge financial advantage over all clubs in the league (including City), and we had feck all to show for it.
Not to mention we've regularly been getting schlonged in Europe over the years by clubs with a fraction of our resources, like Sevilla, Copenhagen, and Galatasaray.
Looks like he’s staying. I’m not actually against I’ve changed my mind a bit. Last chance though, need a strong start to the season or he really is done.
If Ineos make the correct but hard decisions consistently, I think that ruthless culture can be rebuilt in our fanbase overtime. It starts with Ten Hag's situation, they can give in to sentimentality as the club has for the past 10 years like when Ole got the contract after PSG, or they can sack him despite winning two cups in two years because the ambition is to win league and champions league titles and he's obviously not the man for that. I think they'll ignore the reactionary appeals and go for the latter.
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Maybe the story of Tuchel rejecting staying at Bayern as he knew he was getting the United job is the right one, Tuchel for a couple of years to lay the foundations then McKenna after ?
Maybe the story of Tuchel rejecting staying at Bayern as he knew he was getting the United job is the right one, Tuchel for a couple of years to lay the foundations then McKenna after ?
I'm not against him staying but this is baseless.
I don’t get your logic here. FDJ and Amrabat are completely different profiles. FDJ wouldn’t be sitting making tackles. If anything we now have his profile with the emergence of Mainoo
I like the guy. He needs to fix the glaring issues in the way we play. That's all that matters to me. Next season there can be no excuses.
Safe to say that nobody has a clue.
It clearly is mate when it happened match after match, for the best part of 9 months regardless of which players were on the pitch.
No one could make a plausible case as to why an entire squad would ignore their managers instructions for an entire season and their manager not only allowed it but defended the tactics and performances.
It's far more likely that Erik tried something outside the box, it failed badly. At first he maybe persevered thinking it would click but at some point probably realised himself he got it wrong. But was too proud to abandon it and basically admit he'd messed up.
Exactly!
Much better states here than my inarticulate attempt to make the same point yesterday. No one with an ounce of sanity, which by definition excludes Goldbridge, argues that INEOS should actually extend ten Hag’s contract. All that’s left to decide is who his replacement should be.
So if this any other big name manager and they had the type of injuries we had poor results but we’re able to make it not only to the cup final but win a cup against one of the top teams in all of Europe. He shouldn’t be given at least Christmas next year or November, I would honestly let him keep going and stop the two years for a manager to get things going and not sack them and try again.
2 cups in two years. I hope we regroup this summer. Get some key players in that we need trim some more of the deadwood and give him a proper chance to start the season. And if he can’t consistently form he’s out on his ass.
2 cups in two years. I hope we regroup this summer. Get some key players in that we need trim some more of the deadwood and give him a proper chance to start the season. And if he can’t consistently form he’s out on his ass.
Let me guess, "he'd be a decent squad player"? Seems to be a common defense around these parts when underperforming and/or low-quality players are discussed.
If Ten Hag stays it reeks of Ineos bowing to fan pressure. Also how fecking furious must Ten Hag be knowing that we've been flirting with these other managers and letting the media pick at him like vultures.
Challenging for what though is the question.
The title? 4th? Europa/Conference League?
Not true.
7th place. Which many here would hail as an achievement since it's better than 8th.
I still think it will be Tuchel, he just seems like the obvious candidate if you want to step forward.
The talk a few weeks ago was that INEOS were likely to keep him on regardless of our shit form and points tally. Before he won us an FA Cup. A new beginning with new people running the show above him
What has confused things is the story just before the FA cup that he was getting the sack.
Media reports have been conflicting, once the decision is announced we will probably never know when it was made. There is quite likely some disagreement within the club over him staying or going, too
They didnt renew Del Bosque after winning the league on the back of winning another league title and two CL in four years. It was Heynckes who got the boot after their first CL in a million years. Oh and Capello got sacked after winning the league in an uninspiring way.
Nope, I'd trust him to be better than Poch or Tuchel that's all
He is staying. Looking forward to another season of struggle for top 4, decent cup runs and shit on a stick football.
Can't wait!
Can't wait!
The opposite of that, the manager position is no more. We'll only have a head coach and all those decisions will be taken off their hands.
This'll happen regardless of Ten Hag staying or going.
Literally off the top of my head, milestones like Abramovic, Abu Dhabi, Glazers coming, are all well before that timeline.
More importantly, you aren't understanding or addressing the point. Money distribution is completely different between La Liga and the PL. You can win the PL but make a very similar amount to 5th-6th place with the way our model works, the gap between 1st and 20th last season was only about $50m (in La Liga it was $120m).
If he can't turn it around (he won't) then we've written off another season which we can't afford to keep doing. We'll just keep falling further behind our rivals.
I would guess that's what's happening now though. Stick with him another year while monitoring how McKenna does. Massive gamble.
Sorry but to me he was the merc of all mercs. His work rate sucked and it felt like he downed tools. One of my least favorite ever to wear the shirt. Just my humble opinion.
So basically the media are full of shit, they, like the rest of us, have zero idea as to what INEOS are actually going to do
Can we financially afford to have another disastrous league campaign is the big question. I think it's such a massive gamble to keep him after a season like this one.
He literally was worse than Poch just this season.
Didn't you know, the EFL and FAC are mickey mouse trophies, they don't count, top 4 and trophyless is what counts
Here’s to more hammerings next season (of which there’ll be many) when we announce he’s staying.
We were regularly outbidding and outspending Abramovich and Abu Dhabi throughout the 2010s.
We could've spent twice as much and we still wouldn't be any closer.
Honestly shocked the poll is almost 50/50 after that shitshow of a season (fa cup win aside)
McKenna was the only semi-exciting option of those mentioned, so with him staying put then they might aswell let Erik stay. Don't see how Tuchel would fit and he's the second best option.
Here’s my point, anyone saying “keep him, there are no alternatives at the moment” are essentially saying that underneath it all they would still replace him if a candidate they thought was better came along. Its not really a proper vote of confidence
So your saying you would rather have Chelsea's season? And be playing in the conference next season?
I think ETH will stay. Probably United have told Kieran that they will give ETH one more year to improve results. Kieran will stay at Ipswich for the time being hoping to get the Unted job sooner or later. Probably why he has decised not to go to Brighton or Chelsea
Yep he also hasn’t moved any useless players out, or developed any youth. And he hasn’t raised standards either.
So you're one of the ones that doesn't classify the FA Cup as a trophy worth winning, top 4 and CL qualification is all that matters I'm guessing, well I consider winning a trophy more important tahn winning nothing at all
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