Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Just wondering what makes him “elite”? When I think of elite managers i think of Pep, Klopp, Anceloti. What has ETH done in comparison to be in the elite class?
To be fair to him he's literally never had a season where he's not won any silverware. That's quite impressive.
Edit: actually I don't think he won the cup with Utrecht.
I think McKenna is incoming honestly.
Big evening tonight fellas.
It's Luckhurst so taking with a pinch of salt. Would be an interesting volte face all the same
Like everyone are clutching straws for information, seeing as Luckhurst saying that we are keeping ETH for sure and then another journalist saying that he is already sacked and we are looking at De Zerbi now 
It's kind of a information war and just leave it until something concrete comes out, sometimes it seems like our club's name just generates so much traffic that the truth doesn't even matter, just to generate clicks.
It's kind of a information war and just leave it until something concrete comes out, sometimes it seems like our club's name just generates so much traffic that the truth doesn't even matter, just to generate clicks.Enjoy your holidays ETH as you read the news by text message
That's kind of the issue. Antony has played far too much based on his performances. The price tag combined with him being "Ten Hag's man" has lead to this. I will concede that he works hard and that is good. But I still maintain that adjusting for price and playtime he is worse than the likes of Donny, Schneiderlin, Depay, Sanchez and Sancho.
But back on topic.
No disrespect to the Dutch but I wouldn’t call their league the toughest
That’s him sacked then.
Luckhurst couldn’t get a coin flip correct with two guesses
Ten Hag wanted Antony earlier in the summer, it's absolutely on Murtough that we spent way over the odds on him. Lower fee comes with less pressure. Monumental feck up paying that much so late in the window.
Agreed, but he does know how to win trophies to be fair, wherever he's been. He's no where near the same bracket as the people you've mentioned, but it's a better resume than "plays nice football" award most people go nuts for.
I'll admit: the emotion of Saturday made me sway in my thinking. I was absolutely 'goodbye and good night' after Palace. One of the worst things I've ever witnessed as a supporter. There's little logic to it, the logical decision is definitely for him to go, but there we have it.
What I will say is one way or another, we need an announcement tomorrow latest. This constant speculation benefits no-one.
What I will say is one way or another, we need an announcement tomorrow latest. This constant speculation benefits no-one.
He wanted a striker and there wasn’t an option available so went for any wide player in his contact book and that was Anthony.
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Even if that's true (it isn't because he requested Antony earlier) -
The fact it's up to a manager to go through his 'contact book' is shambolic. Why they couldn't find him a striker is also shambolic. And why so fecking late in the window!
Agreed but I still wouldn’t use the word elite at this stage
He got Utrecht to the Dutch Cup final but they lost
That’s on Murtough. He looked star struck from the moment he laid eyes on ten Hag.
No, I wouldn't either. After what we saw in the league, he needs to adapt big time.
Yep, my bad, edited after.
City may drop the ball when Pep leaves next year or when the judgements start raining down. We have to be ready to get in the queue to challenge
so we’re really at the back him or sack him stage. This halfway house idea of keeping him for a few months to see how he does helps nobody, in fact it would hinder us with more media noise and a distraction to the players
so we’re really at the back him or sack him stage. This halfway house idea of keeping him for a few months to see how he does helps nobody, in fact it would hinder us with more media noise and a distraction to the players
Yeah, trying to string a review out to a week, when it takes half an hour on a zoom call.
Whatever the outcome of this we should be backlisting some of these journos, so clear no one has a scooby and yet write something in affirmative tone and our fan base will jump on it.
The amount this particular line is parroted here really is maddening.
It's fine to be Ten Hag in but you have to accept that means committing to him. And realise that keeping him and not committing to him means just delaying his sacking by a couple of months and wasting another season in turmoil.
I'm stuck on this after being 'Hag out' for a while now. I like the way he has used the younger players and bedded them in, but he has also created the rod for his own back with the Anthony and Mount purchases.
I think i'd like to see if he can implement his 'transitional' style with a mobile DM.
That being said i wouldn't be against a change, as long as we still bed in the best of the youth.
I just don't want to see us buying journeymen again.
I think i'd like to see if he can implement his 'transitional' style with a mobile DM.
That being said i wouldn't be against a change, as long as we still bed in the best of the youth.
I just don't want to see us buying journeymen again.
Yep, money where your mouth is. If they decide he’s the right man, back him and commit to him. He cannot work in uncertainty
It's not even that, you don't have to commit to anything outside of what's normal - just choose whoever you want and judge them on results.
Forget ETH, let's say we hire x, y or z manager tomorrow. If they lose the first 3 games 0-5, you're not stuck with them. 'Oh no, we can't sack him, we backed him in summer'. No one gives feck, you sack someone when you feel there is a better option available, the reason ETH (so far) has not been sacked is because Ineos have either not identified or, probably more likely, not been able to attract someone they feel is 'better'.
Who cares? Little do they know whether he will succeed or not. Assumptions do not hold up very well.
There were probably many rival fans who wanted lego-Pep to continue for the same reason as well.
He seems to be a winner as evidenced by cup finals and cups. So better than ole in this regard.
but his signings (apart from Martinez and hojund) and style of play is average to boring.
Would prefer a manager who can get our team to actually play with patterns and fluid attacking football.
but his signings (apart from Martinez and hojund) and style of play is average to boring.
Would prefer a manager who can get our team to actually play with patterns and fluid attacking football.
If so hire some new coaches and bin off a couple of the current ones, we can't persist with this terrible football.
I agree. The easiest and least risky decision here is to just kick the can down the road one more year once the new directors are embedded. If you replace Ten Hag with De Zerbi, Tuchel or Poch, and it looks
You’re probably right but my larger point is that I’d like to have owners that look proactive and clued up as opposed to knee jerk reaction based on fan sentiment.
Maybe some on here have been watching the fan channels because they are very pro Erik anyway
when he has his first 11 in fairness the football is nice to watch
As if INEOS hasn’t been doing a deep analysis on the entire club the second they took over, including the current season.
Just imagining SJR and Berrada sitting down like “alright lads how’d we do this year? Ah I see we won a cup, that’s nice. Hmmm poor season in the league though, what happened there?”
I thought Wilcox has been casting his eye over it all for a few weeks.
Far more negatives than positives in regards to Ten Hag's reign.
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