Eric Bailly | BBC say signing is imminent

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I actually think we might be buying him to play RB.
Bailly as right back?

He normally plays as center back next to Musacchio.

I think Mourinho wants him as CB. But I could be wrong, and he could end up playing in the RB position as you said.
 
Manchester United are in talks with Villarreal to sign Ivory Coast international Eric Bailly, according to Sky sources.

Sky Sports News HQ understands United are not the only club trying to sign Bailly, with Manchester City, Barcelona, and Paris St Germainall also in talks with the La Liga club.
 
Dont give any credit to tweets from the British press as if they're on top of this transfer. Our source says no fee agreed as of yet etc.
This is all Spanish press with the progression reports. Not an English journo who hadn't a clue who he was 3 hrs ago.
 
Dont give any credit to tweets from the British press as if they're on top of this transfer. Our source says no fee agreed as of yet etc.
This is all Spanish press with the progression reports. Not an English journo who hadn't a clue who he was 3 hrs ago.
Yeah. "sources" means Twitter.
 
I miss this kind of transfer, much better than a four week saga every time we want to sign a backup goalkeeper
 
Competition lasts 3 weeks, preparation is for a week before hand (last time it lasted 17th Jan - 8th Feb)
Yes it's in the middle of the season but the time it's on isn't a significant part of the season, sure you could argue every game is important in a title winning run, but at the end of the day there's usually no FA Cup, no CL. If you get to the semi finals of the CC then those are usually played around then.

Toure was a loss sure, but ultimately City won the title by goal difference, and by virtue of Liverpool losing to Chelsea & Crystal Palace, they were hardly unstoppable.

It's inconvenient sure, but it's still an international competition for these players who are proud to represent their country, and I don't think it should be demeaned in the way that it is, purely because a player might miss 4/5 maybe 6 games assuming they win the competition.

Its not being demeaned. Its more why play it then? Is that out of the african season?

City may have scraped to the title when they won, but the two seasons after they were much poorer.

And again, 4 weeks is a long time, plus the additional fatigue from tournament football.

Didn't say i wouldn't sign a player because of it, but its an inconvenience to clubs.
 
As long as he's a few percentage points better than Blind and Rojo at centre back then all good.
 
He's nothing special on the ball, but adequate enough for direct styles (à la Villarreal or Mourinho's teams usually), I would imagine.
And otherwise? Do you think he can become a top CB?
 
The reports are coming from Cadena Ser - Carrusel. It's a pretty mainstream sport news show and it wouldn't be a surprise if they've got a source at Villareal. It's so specific that it doesn't sound like the usual sort of agent gossip stuff.
 
Like most of us on here, I'd never heard of the player till this evening. One thing is guaranteed he'll be a great athlete being from Africa.

Is that racist?
 
Skysports saying Barca PsG and some other team are also trying to sign him.

Looks like United are curremtly front runners though
 
pfft. You guys are so uninformed. I knew about him when he was a wee lad playing on the beaches of Ivory Cost, and always said he'd be the first signing Jose Mourinho makes as United manager. :D
 
pfft. You guys are so uninformed. I knew about him when he was a wee lad playing on the beaches of Ivory Cost, and always said he'd be the first signing Jose Mourinho makes as United manager. :D
Wenger is that you :wenger:
 
Incidentally AS are saying "they are able to confirm" that discussions are very advanced. That's not how AS would talk if they didn't have a serious source.
 
Skysports saying Barca PsG and some other team are also trying to sign him.

Looks like United are curremtly front runners though
It's the usual names they put in to create some hype. They know feck all in this case.
 
Definitely an alternative to Laporte. Laporte has 2 red cards and 1 MotM to Bailly's 1 red card and 3 MotM. Laporte's 80% pass success is only marginally better. In his favour, Laporte scored those 5 goals last season. From his video's Bailly looks a quick, a fluent player and good passer. £19m is OK. More whoscored stats showing 20 to 24 year old CBs:
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Like most of us on here, I'd never heard of the player till this evening. One thing is guaranteed he'll be a great athlete being from Africa.

Is that racist?

Typecast?
 
I'd be honest, I haven't seen him, but 32m pounds for a defender seems an awful lot. It makes him among top 5 most expensive Defenders iirc. I agree there aren't a lot of options, but I think the amount is enough to try and tempt most defenders. Add a few million and we can get Laporte, and even Marquinhos. At this amount, Thiago Silva is gettable, maybe even Mustafi.
 
Looks very aggressive in his style of play, and very rush to step out of the defensive line. Not sure if he's a great fit for Smalling - both would burst forward to make a challenge or an interception and there won't be anyone covering for them since it's always been their partner's job.
 
I'd be honest, I haven't seen him, but 32m pounds for a defender seems an awful lot. It makes him among top 5 most expensive Defenders iirc. I agree there aren't a lot of options, but I think the amount is enough to try and tempt most defenders. Add a few million and we can get Laporte, and even Marquinhos. At this amount, Thiago Silva is gettable, maybe even Mustafi.
Supply and demand. Look at the extortionate prices Everton want for the definition of average called Stones.
 
I'd be honest, I haven't seen him, but 32m pounds for a defender seems an awful lot. It makes him among top 5 most expensive Defenders iirc. I agree there aren't a lot of options, but I think the amount is enough to try and tempt most defenders. Add a few million and we can get Laporte, and even Marquinhos. At this amount, Thiago Silva is gettable, maybe even Mustafi.
every spanish report has said its 31 million euros, that comes to 19 million pounds. Some say it may go to 41 million euros with addons. If he achieve the add ons, then we might get a world class centre half, so why not? 19 Million is great money for a potentially great defender,We spunked that on nani 9 years ago.
 
Supply and demand. Look at the extortionate prices Everton want for the definition of average called Stones.
Fair point. But I think for this sum nearly every CB is gettable- maybe even guys like gimenez for a few million more. So I'd rather go for established quality(although I do agree I haven't seen him). As far as Stones, etc. are concerned, Stones is just overrated, overhyped, overpriced typical English talent who,although, not as bad as people have been suggesting on caf in last few days, is still a pretty average defender.
 
Definitely an alternative to Laporte. Laporte has 2 red cards and 1 MotM to Bailly's 1 red card and 3 MotM. Laporte's 80% pass success is only marginally better. In his favour, Laporte scored those 5 goals last season. From his video's Bailly looks a quick, a fluent player and good passer. £19m is OK. More whoscored stats showing 20 to 24 year old CBs:
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Mammana FM legend :drool: saw him linked to Chelsea not long ago
 
Fair point. But I think for this sum nearly every CB is gettable- maybe even guys like gimenez for a few million more. So I'd rather go for established quality(although I do agree I haven't seen him). As far as Stones, etc. are concerned, Stones is just overrated, overhyped, overpriced typical English talent who,although, not as bad as people have been suggesting on caf in last few days, is still a pretty average defender.
I think you're talking of values from 5 years ago. Don't forget David Luiz of all people went for 50m not long ago.
 
Its not being demeaned. Its more why play it then? Is that out of the african season?

City may have scraped to the title when they won, but the two seasons after they were much poorer.

And again, 4 weeks is a long time, plus the additional fatigue from tournament football.

Didn't say i wouldn't sign a player because of it, but its an inconvenience to clubs.

Combination of playing out of season for a lot of African countries, but it's also usually the best time of the year also. It's outside of the hottest part of winter, plus mosquitos are less frequent. May onwards is rainy season and more unpredictable climate wise, hence why it's not held in May/June/July. Plus in terms of footballing calendar for most countries in the world, its the most convenient (not at the start of the season, not during winter breaks/christmas period, and not at at the time of title run-ins).

4 weeks is the maximum time assuming the team wins the competition, the average time the player will be gone is between 2-3 weeks including preparation time and given a few days after to recuperate. Although most African countries are +1 hour ahead, and aren't played at a high altitude, the weather would be hot, but the players are African i'm sure they wont be suffering.

It's an inconvenience, this I accept, but the tournament means a lot to the players who have an opportunity to represent their countries, especially since so few African countries have done well at World Cup's recently. And therefore should be given the respect it deserves.
 
And otherwise? Do you think he can become a top CB?

Yeah, definitely can become very good. He's already excellent at using his physicality (speed and strength) to win duels and provide cover, seems to read the game pretty well too. He rose to prominence quite unexpectedly (to me at least), after spending several years in Espanyol's youth and B teams. Last season he got some playing time (literally a handful of games) and immediately looked impressive in games against Villarreal and Barça (even though they got thrashed in the latter, he always seemed solid in the 1v1s). Villarreal immediately went for him that January as a replacement for Gabriel.

He was an integral part of what was for three quarters of the season the 2nd best defense in La Liga (until they had a little collapse in the last two months), because he provided them with much needed solidity and an actual balance between physicality and positional play that their DF system had been missing in the previous seasons -- of course the rest of the back four was excellent as well (Mário Gaspar easily one of the best fullbacks in Spain over the last few seasons and Víctor Ruíz was for once actually somewhat consistent)... A stabilizing influence nonetheless, which is part of the reason why Villarreal finished 4th with relative ease.
 
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