I'm more alarmed that there are posters above who thought he had a bad game generally.
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I'm more alarmed that there are posters above who thought he had a bad game generally.
He's a player that will never get all the credit he deserves. Some people made their minds up on him seasons ago and won't hear anything else for fear of being wrong (they already are, they just won't admit it).
Just thinking further about the match yesterday, would we be better off using Dalot as an orthodox fullback when he is playing left back? He put in one amazing cross yesterday but I don’t actually recall him overlapping at all otherwise. He seemed to instead be dropping into CM leaving us looking quite unbalanced.
That’s not a criticism of him - I thought he had a good game - but I’m unconvinced it’s tactically helping us.
That’s not a criticism of him - I thought he had a good game - but I’m unconvinced it’s tactically helping us.
I've seen many players suffer from this over the years. Once you're considered crap, you have to become an exceptional player to change people's minds. Being good or decent won't be enough to change the narrative.
Having said that it can work the other way. Dalot had a reputation as an attacking full back when he first came and that reputation stayed with him for a while despite him never actually offering anything in attack for years afterwards. The other obvious example is Maguire being considered a ball playing centre back when we brought him in and that reputation that he was a good ball player stuck for years despite it being evident he's ponderous and crap in possession.
Yeah, it's weird having conversations with people and feeling like you've watched entirely different matches.
Yeah everyone has a right to their opinion but wtf are these people watching, it can't be the same match as what I watched
Can someone elaborate how he had a bad game yesterday, even if you somehow think the Brighton winner is on him, before that, please explain how he had a bad game?
I expect that he isn't supposed to go back to his normal position until after the corner is fully cleared. Up until that point, the players should be defending in the positions they take for the corner. In this case, the ball basically never left the penalty box so it certainly wasn't cleared.
I'd say Mazraoui is the one more at fault from that. He should have stayed on the left rather than rushing over to a position where we've already got more than enough people. Once the ball is fully cleared then swap back.
Mazraoui, Casemiro and maybe Garnacho (depending on whether the coaching staff have told him to rush forward to make himself available for a counter-attack) were the main ones who abandoned the positions they should have been holding.
Dalot is supposed to be at the back post.
Dalot is pretty much always our man covering the back post, in corners taken from both sides. I remember quite a lot of goals he stopped last season in that exact position. So he did not 'abandon his side'; indeed he was one of the players who held his position the best.
Whether he could have done a better job blocking the cross is a more suitable question.
It was rhetorical but yeah agreed.
Thought he had a great game bar the shocking 2nd Brighton goal where he was 15 yds out of position.
I really wonder if he minds playing on the left or whether he is completely indifferent about it..
There are no signs he minds.. He performs, gives all on the pitch, no statements about preferring the right in the media.. He looks to be fully on board with moving to the other flank..
I do still wonder though whether there is something in his ego or how he feels he is valued being moved left..
*pure 100% wonderings/speculation from my side..
There are no signs he minds.. He performs, gives all on the pitch, no statements about preferring the right in the media.. He looks to be fully on board with moving to the other flank..
I do still wonder though whether there is something in his ego or how he feels he is valued being moved left..
*pure 100% wonderings/speculation from my side..
He just seems like a perfect professional to me. Gets on with the job wherever he's needed. Brilliant mentality, brilliant athlete, brilliant player.
Yes, I’ve always seen him as one of the more professional members of our team. I believe Ronaldo hinted as much during his time here in one of the interviews how Diogo had a very good mentality and was always wanting to improve.
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If it was his idea to bomb forward so aggressively when f'n Salah is roaming around, that was incredibly stupid. But i doubt it, as he adjusted his positioning in the second half and was no longer as adventurous. I like Dalot alot as a player, he's basically good at everything a fullback needs but the amount of work he gets through in games has to be mind blowing. He was dead by the 70th min today. The tactical structure is awful, leaving any fullback 1v1 against Salah that many times is bound to hurt you.
Someone did an analysis on Dalot last season and his forays into MF. It was a positive analysis.
Thought he took up a place in MF once Collyer came in for a bit too.
I wonder if that would be a good change for him? Basically to become a MF player?
Thought he took up a place in MF once Collyer came in for a bit too.
I wonder if that would be a good change for him? Basically to become a MF player?
At this moment he is maybe our best player.
I was in the South Stand yesterday and second half he was right in front of me. He was shouting for the ball from either Martinez, Onana or Mazraoui all the time when he had loads of space, the ball rarely went to him and when it did it was when he was under pressure. I could see him getting properly annoyed with it when the aforementioned 3 players decided not to make a semi risky pass and instead went back to the keeper, only for him to either twat it out of play, or make a long ball that came straight back.
By some distance surely.
Never complains when switched and always available for selection given he seems in great shape and was a Ronaldo discipline in terms of diet and training.
ETH needs to shift tactics whilst Mount out as still getting over run in midfield and attacking threat limited. When Shaw back why not use Dalot as a free man who can get forward (shown he can beat a man from a standing start which Rashford hasn’t done all season and he makes great runs through the middle once or twice a game and can deliver good and powerful crosses) and add extra legs in defence/midfield when needed.
Rather play with two up top to give him necessary freedom given, more often than not, Rashford is a passenger.
I think he comfortably is at the moment. I feel like he'd get proper appreciation if he actually played for a good, functioning side.
Not near good enough to be a starter at united in my opinion. However we are in the era of lowered expectations.
It’s crazy how our best defender is consistently played out of position. He’s not a left back ffs. How many other clubs so often play fullbacks on the ‘wrong’ side?
City, Arsenal they even play CBs at fullback, Dalot played left back at Porto before he even set foot at United
It's pretty common these days. Dalot has played LB at a standard level of proficiency quite a few times at united and elsewhere.
We also played AWB there last season for instance and he made his full debut for West Ham at LB
Don’t get the praise for him post match.
We were completely exposed by Liverpool down his side and defensively he was appalling. This sums it up
Maybe not his fault because he is not a left back and has Rashford in front of him who doesn’t defend.
We were completely exposed by Liverpool down his side and defensively he was appalling. This sums it up
Maybe not his fault because he is not a left back and has Rashford in front of him who doesn’t defend.
I don't see how Dalot is at any blame there. He was covering the outside and rightly so as there were players covering the inside. If you have to blame any defender there it's Licha who fails to easily step in front of that pass and clear the ball.
I've been a huge fan of Dalot especially since last season, he has taken his game to the next level and is one of the few players on the team that is competent on the ball and allows us to play anything cohesive.
So how is it a player gets praised yet we got ripped open time and again down his side? Something doesn't add up
Because he was often left 1v1 and sometimes 2v1 against the best winger the league has ever seen.
Also high up the pitch when our midfielders were brainlessly giving the ball away.
Not as if he was making silly mistakes and getting skinned regularly
What exactly are we meant to be looking at here?
We got ripped open constantly because we were top heavy and none of our front players could keep the ball.
Backing off the player instead of closing him down to prevent the cross?
He did prevent the cross, unfortunately he can't do that and prevent a cut back bass at the same time.
I'm in agreement. He's never filled me with confidence to handle tricky wingers. He's done it before, but its hit and miss and you never know which version of Dalot you'll get on the day. I still remember his nightmare games against the likes of Mitoma and St. Maximin, only for AWB to shut them down after coming in at halftime and replacing Dalot.
Salah had a lot of joy against Dalot on Sunday. Ultimately Dalot came up short when it mattered most, but somehow his performance was still generally given a pass.
He was up against in form Salah and TAA though without much cover from either Rashford or his midfield. His starting positions when we are building up are too high but that's what is being asked of him. Makes it difficult to get back goal side when we don't keep the ball to progress
Because it's not about defending anymore apparently
I don't think he is getting praised. More about being sympathetic to a player who had to cover alone LB and the left side of the midfield.
Someone posted in another thread the average position of our players, and we had 7 players covering the right side. We were so heavily invested to the right, like the Germans in the recent elections.
He has definitely been getting praised. I read a few calling him our best defender after the game.
Hes backup right back when everyone is fit which is about right
Unlikely. He starts.