I'll wait until season's end to judge him but I don't think he's been negative, no, I would say most of our team is struggling to be on more than 5/10 for the season with a few like Bruno, De Ligt, Amad as exceptions. But I guess 'solid' is hard to quantify so I did above for another poster, let me know if you think that is fair re Dalot.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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- Red cards
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Ashwin @AR87 are here to discuss two "on-paper" not great results for United over the last week, but are there positive signs of progress despite what the ex-United pundits are saying?
They also preview the big game Europa League game against Lyon.
I just can't grow to love him despite him being fit and doing his best all the time, that sequence from the weekend where he dispossessed the Arsenal winger and runs on the counter just to lose the ball over the line just sums his career here. Bottler mentality reeks out of him. Spurs player written all over him.
I just can’t help but think of it in terms of our financial situation and need to rebuild the squad, and in those terms I find it hard to justify keeping a player like Dalot. He’s a player we could actually get some decent money for given his age, and if he’s not going to be a starter (which he shouldn’t be), then I think his role as a squad player can be be replaced at a net positive.
Bit like McT was. Real/Bayern keep getting linked by shit sources but I’d agree re selling any player to be honest, it’s just about price. None are untouchable but Dalot isn’t on the list of guys we need to jettison asap like Sancho, Case, Rashford, Shaw etc.
Same way you can't magically make a player much quicker, stronger, taller. With Dalot he has the abilities, application is the issue. I think the mistakes he makes can be fixed with coaching.
I agree, taking him out for a few games would be great coaching
You can make players quicker and stronger - they have very specific training for doing just that. Certainly easier to seek incremental gains there than with football IQ, which is a more mercurial quality. Dalot is a braindead player and I can't see that changing at 25.
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The best I’ve seen him play this season, hopefully he can carry that forward tor the next few months.
Even before the ball it was one of the better games for a long time. Still think, he isn't involved enough and I kind of don't get that wingback role he has when Garnacho is playing in front of him but today he was solid. Finish was pretty good as well.
Good today apart from that mistake where he was trying to shield the ball out.
Much better when he has a proper winger in front of him and he's on his natural side
He started the move for the Bruno goal + scored. Only stupid thing, which was classic Dalot, was trying to shepherd a near dead ball out of play only for Case to save him.
I'd rate him lower than most of others tonight but scored the goal in the end. Back to left side on Sunday given Dorgu's suspension.
I think we need to accept he will always have those moments. Other than that, I think he was mostly good tonight. Great engine, strong, fast, decent passer of the ball. He scored a cracking goal, but he's mostly quite inefficient in the final third.
But those moments are crazy
Shittest celebration in the team.
Batshit, by definition. And it happens more or less every match; it's like he has an off button that sometimes someone operates remotely.
He loves a wanky celebration with a winger
Dalot run
Dalot shoot
DALOT SCORE!!!
Dalot happy
Dalot check pulse...
DALOT ALIVE!!!
Dalot very happy
Dalot shoot
DALOT SCORE!!!
Dalot happy
Dalot check pulse...
DALOT ALIVE!!!
Dalot very happy
Very solid performance tonight and good goal. Was interested to see what negatives would be found after a game he scored in a 4-1 win to put us through in a must win, and I see it's his celebration this time that's upset a few
You've got to take the Casemiro-death-stare cray cray moments with the other little progressive things he does. This season it has mostly become a net negative but he's a very capable player if he can avoid/cut out those issues.
Good goal tonight. But i can’t say a good game overall. It is obvious that everything happens on the left from a wing back perspective. Not sure, i don’t believe he’ll be a starter next season
If we had another Dorgu as an option at RWB then Dalot would be back up.
Which is probably the level he should be at. Hes a bit like Maz. Not really a wingback.
Don't we all?
I haven't seen any complaints about his celebration (although admittedly haven't looked much).
I have seen mentions of him giving the ball away in our penalty area, something he's making a frustrating habit of, fortunately he got away with it. That extreme carelessness is a part of his game he needs to cut out.
Weird that he pretty much blanks Hojlund during the celebration, laid on a great assist.
Yeah, I thought that too. Is that why he didn't lay him on last week?
You're never going to cut it out though. It's very rare for a defender not to make a mistake in a game. They will give silly fouls away, sometimes penalties, make poor clearances, lose an aerial challenge, get skinned by an attacker, and they won't have 100% pass success rate.
Scored a goal, could have had an assist, made 0 fouls, had no dribbles past him, ran himself as usual into the ground and had 84% passing accuracy in a solid 7/10 performance.
What is it with Portuguese players and injuries? Bruno and Dalot are always available and even Ronaldo back in the day was fouled a lot but played quite a bit. (Nani is not part of this conversation)
Always fit, that's about it.
Second worst goal celebration in football after Palmer's.
He's a decent full-back / defensive wing back and can be also a decente RCB.
Dalot is not the problem. Having few offensive options for the right flank (Diallo is injured, but he ain't enough...) is indeed the problem.
Dalot is not the problem. Having few offensive options for the right flank (Diallo is injured, but he ain't enough...) is indeed the problem.
He honestly needs some respect for the amount of work he gets through. I don’t think it’s as clear when watching on TV but when you’re at the ground you realise how much effort and energy he puts in every single game. The number of sprints is remarkable, because he often presses from a deeper position and has to cover 20 yards to press his man. He’s got some engine on him.
He really irritates me. Whenever I am ready to give up on him he ist doing well. He got the attributes but no brain it seems.
Of course defenders aren't going to be perfect, but regularly making dangerous mistakes that are easily avoidable, like giving the ball to the opponent in our own penalty area in a situation that was under control, is nowhere near the same as losing a challenge.
Dalot is by far our worst culprit, I imagine partly because he's mentally exhausted having played so much, but even before that he's been prone to sloppiness.
Today was a good game overall, I didn't dispute that, but a better opponent would have punished that mistake and the story right now would have been very different.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he is pretty burnt out this season. He has been the most consistent fullback from an appearance perspective for a while now, we have seen when confident and fit he is a very good fullback if not outstanding. He has more than enough qualify to be part of a wingback rotation. If we got Quenda then Dalot would be a good option to still have as cover for both wings.
oh come on. Lets be happy he had a good game after a lot of not so good ones. No need to re-write history. Some of you don't seem to grasp that even Fullbacks these days are supposed to contribute in attack. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that he is anything more than mostly average in that regard. A goal against a 10 men side in the dying minutes of a game doesn't change that. It isn't overly harsh to label him a good fullback on good days. But anything above that is wishful thinking. Yesterday we've seen what a difference a willing runner can make (Dorgu), that is willing to have a go at players and attack the penalty area. Yet United fans are still sitting applauding Shaw and Dalot for some "key passes" in what feels like 5 years ago.
Could take your advice and spin it around and say he has had seasons were he has been a good fullback outside of this season. Just like you shouldn't take one good game and take the whole season into account, you should take into account his time here were he has also had good seasons as a starting fullback. Dalot is more than good enough to be a backup or rotation option for wingbacks No need to be dramatic and say people are calling him outstanding or that he is the worst fullback in the league when he clearly is not. Hes a decent fullback who would be a good option as cover.
One. One season where he was mostly good to even very good. All other season are best described with meh... (Just to make sure, I certainly appreciate his availability and his physicality. That seems to be very good. But as that should be the norm, I can't take it as additional substance to big him up. It just shows how far away of the tracks the rest of our squad is)
I do. It isn't too hard with him given that thos good seasons aren't there in abundance.
In our current situation, probably yes. In general, not convinced. If your backup is turning your overall system dysfunctional, then the option maybe isn't as good. Thats a bit hyperbolic I know, but even yesterday, the player that stood out on his flank was Dorgu, who is at the club since 45minutes.
I'd call it dramatic when people label him outstanding. And I'd see your point when the system we seem to go for for the foreseeable future had fullbacks in it. I've written above that I expect him to be around for longer. Because the club is traditionally not good making such decisions like cashing in on a player with a certain amount of promise. As a backup option, I'm not losing sleep about him but I think, this is the sort of thinking, we can't really afford. Our first team is NOT good, we aren't a functional team. There is so much to do, for me personally, we can't afford thinking about bench options when the first eleven is in the state it is in.