De Ligt is a great defender, he’s much better than De Vrij imo. Would strengthen our defense and he’s a good passer of the ball.
De Ligt | €45+5m agreement reached pending medical | Signed!
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..and he’s best mates with Frenkie de Jong 
..and he’s best mates with Frenkie de Jong
Doesn't matter though, does it. He's not interested in leaving, we're not interested in signing him.
Never say never. ETH still consider De Jong the last piece of the zigsaw puzzle. With the new management they may back him. We are signing players that fit ETH's system such as De Ligt and Zirkzee.
That’s the spirit
We're the only team that, when looking likely to sign a good player for a reasonable price, the opposition fans sign a successful petition to make the transfer not happen.
It's just so us.
Always something.
It's just so us.
Always something.
Naw thanks. I‘m over it like a bad breakup. My inner muppet is hibernating and won‘t get up for Frenkie.
I don't think they can, even if they wanted to. We can't afford him. And I don't think the new directors will want him either.
Some of you are forgetting Frenkie's deal with Barca with escalating wages. He's their highest earner, currently on €720k pw at Barca before bonuses and with bonuses he can go up to €1m pw. Which is why he's not moving an inch from there. I very much doubt we can afford to pay him that or better, to lure him. We'll run into FFP issues. And for him, Utd will absolutely be a step down from Barca.
Plus it will likely go against the policy of not paying huge money for players over 25, since they don't have resale value. FDJ is currently 27.
Finally, we're very, very far from needing a "last jigsaw puzzle". We finished 8th, and I expect that if ETH doesn't get at least a top 4 finish this season, he's likely to be sent packing along with his puzzle pieces.
Our management won’t give a shit about the petition. It’s not the first and all the ones before didn’t matter one bit.
60'453 have signed it so far, I very much doubt they are all FC Bayern fans though
Delete this!
we have been linked with other CBs, but
- Todibo won't happen because the UEFA is dumb
- Yoro won't happen because he favours Real Madrid
- Branthwaite won't happen because Everton is asking for way too much
so that leaves de Ligt, who is available and apparently keen on the move. In any case, I don't see how we are only linked with players ETH knows.
We could sign his GF and his mother for the women's team and he would still go into hiding if Barca accept our offer.
Is it?We're the only team that, when looking likely to sign a good player for a reasonable price, the opposition fans sign a successful petition to make the transfer not happen.
It's just so us.
Always something.
Done!
You guys can relax. No one at the club cares about stuff like that.
Or at any club
I know the game you're playing
It’s change.org which is a glorified spam mailing app
The reluctancy for this tansfer here is bizarre to me..
Do people realize we just finished 8th in the PL and cannot offer Champions League/Europa League football to potential signings? Being able to get a player of his quality, his age, his price, his experience at the highest level.. Its a jackpot signing..
Sure, when he was 17 and captained Ajax to the semi finals of the Champions League people would have expected him to be THE best central defender in the world by a distance, and it didnt turn out like that (yet), but that doesnt mean that he is not a world class defender still.. So many games at Juve and Bayern, so highly valued by both clubs..
Bayern doesnt want him gone cause he is not good enough.. They want him gone cause they finished 3rd and want to do a squad rebuild and desperately need the financial room he would bring in..
As for The Netherlands.. Its said often before in this thread.. De Vrij is playing RCB, because where on paper we play with a back 4, in practice we play with 3 (Dumfries far up and Ake coming center). De Vrij is more comfortable as a semi rb than De Ligt, who is a real pure central defender.. Koeman wants someone there who can easily drift of tot he right.. It has nothing to do with Koeman not rating him, De Ligt is just back up for VVD.
Ake/vdVen - VVD/De Ligt - De Vrij/Geetruida - Dumfries/Frimpong.
De Ligt brings proven natural leadership skills, physicality, height, football skills, 3-5 goals per year.. He is not as quick as vd Ven for example, but he is far from slow.. He made is possible that Daley Blind could excel as an LCB for a high pressing team ffs..
At this stage, being able to sign a player of De Ligt his age/quality for the prices which go around.. Absolute no-brainer!
Do people realize we just finished 8th in the PL and cannot offer Champions League/Europa League football to potential signings? Being able to get a player of his quality, his age, his price, his experience at the highest level.. Its a jackpot signing..
Sure, when he was 17 and captained Ajax to the semi finals of the Champions League people would have expected him to be THE best central defender in the world by a distance, and it didnt turn out like that (yet), but that doesnt mean that he is not a world class defender still.. So many games at Juve and Bayern, so highly valued by both clubs..
Bayern doesnt want him gone cause he is not good enough.. They want him gone cause they finished 3rd and want to do a squad rebuild and desperately need the financial room he would bring in..
As for The Netherlands.. Its said often before in this thread.. De Vrij is playing RCB, because where on paper we play with a back 4, in practice we play with 3 (Dumfries far up and Ake coming center). De Vrij is more comfortable as a semi rb than De Ligt, who is a real pure central defender.. Koeman wants someone there who can easily drift of tot he right.. It has nothing to do with Koeman not rating him, De Ligt is just back up for VVD.
Ake/vdVen - VVD/De Ligt - De Vrij/Geetruida - Dumfries/Frimpong.
De Ligt brings proven natural leadership skills, physicality, height, football skills, 3-5 goals per year.. He is not as quick as vd Ven for example, but he is far from slow.. He made is possible that Daley Blind could excel as an LCB for a high pressing team ffs..
At this stage, being able to sign a player of De Ligt his age/quality for the prices which go around.. Absolute no-brainer!
We can buy Mazraoui too while we are in Bayern's shop. 
If we sign him we’re only De Jong away from getting the band back together, bet we still can’t play football like Ajax though…
Said the spider to the fly. Deal will be off next week now.
Sign FDJ and Neres and when winning the CL Ajax will add a CL to its own price cabinet as well .We can buy Mazraoui too while we are in Bayern's shop.
100% this. It really is mind-blowing reaction.
The question is does De Ligt improve on our current options and available at a decent price. If the answer is yes then it's a sensible signing.
I would say though we absolutely need to be in the market for two central defenders who don't have histories of injury problems.
I would say though we absolutely need to be in the market for two central defenders who don't have histories of injury problems.
Nah. Then Tadic and Blind would be missing links.
Agreed except the part about not being being able to offer Europa League football
This policy of not paying huge money for players over 25 doesn't exist, unless you have a good source to back up your claim.
Other than that, I agree that De Jong to United is very unlikely at this point, but that's only because he doesn't plan on leaving. If that ever changes, we'll be one of the frontrunners for him, if ten Hag is still at the club. Next summer seems to be the last chance, though, as he will be 28, and have 1 year left on his deal.
We can absolutely afford him as well, as he knows he would have to take a wage cut wherever he goes after Barcelona. There isn't going to be any club offering him 720k/week, it would probably be around half that, and there's only a small number of clubs who could pay that. United are one of them. If Barca offer him new terms, the numbers there will also not even be close to 500k, let alone 720k. So De Jong knows he'll never ever earn this money again.
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We are not getting a better player combination of quality/money/motivation to play for us at CB this summer so its a no-brainer.
Lots of posters on here lacking common sense. I did an FM save where I bought De Ligt and Ugarte and they both turned out to be world class for us. That’s what we need. Players with leadership and potential world class abilities. They both have development left in them, a point to prove and hopefully yet to hit their peak performance.
Can't argue with that kind of common sense
I agree with most of what you said, and that it would be a good signing for the fee and wages reported, but I've never understood this short-term thinking that "we cannot offer CL/EL football"
No player will make a huge career decision based on which team can offer them CL in their very first season. No team has been a lock-in for top 4 in the last 8 years except City, and Liverpool under Klopp, and Arsenal now under Arteta...but Liverpool absolutely cannot guarantee CL football year after year anymore either. Finishing 8th doesn't change the fact that we are one of the most attractive destinations in the world, and very few, if any players will choose Villa or Liverpool ahead of us even nowadays, just because they play CL next season.
I countered this silly argument 2 years ago as well, when people thought de Jong would choose Chelsea over United because they played in the CL...well they played 10 CL games since then, the last one coming in April 2023, and the earliest they're gonna play another one is September 2025...but that's far from a given as well. You don't join an English club because they have CL, you join them because their project is more attractive / suitable to you than others. It's impossible to know for sure that they'll keep finishing top 4 unless it's City or Arsenal.
Small point, but we are in Europe this season.
The man would be a significant upgrade on Maguire and Lindelof, both of whom need to be moved on. Apart from concerns about his knees, which only medics can give assurances are completely fine now, De Ligt would be a fantastic signing.
Bayern has a fanbase in the tens of millions… and 60k signed a well publicized petition?
Are the ones saying he’s their best defender the same ones setting his sale price by any chance?
All I know is that for the longest time Tuchel wouldn’t play him, and then supposedly there was a rumor he was “encouraged” to play him due to salary invested. It apparently was a whole big soap opera …
… that Bayern essentially blamed on Tuchel. Nothing wrong with De Ligt, everything is fine. But then they turn around and immediately try to sell him off.
I’m sure everything will be ok though. Everyone knows that if you’ve run into a rough career patch and need to go somewhere to re find your form, the spotlight of old Trafford is just the place.
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