He sounds more than willing to leave to be fair.
De Ligt | €45+5m agreement reached pending medical | Signed!
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They bought him for €67m + 10m, and are demanding €50m + ?. They're not getting a profit.
They bought him for €67m and gave him a 5 year contract (I am not aware of any add-ons). Therefore, he still has a value of €40.2m in Bayern's books.
https://www.capology.com/club/bayern-munich/salaries/
Their salary is so high..maybe it is a reason to get rid a non starter with high salary
Yes, because the rest is already registered as a loss. Any sale over 40 is a profit in a bookkeeping sense, it doesn't mean they made a profit on the deal itself. It you sell something for less than you bought it for you're not profiting.
Say they bought for 67, sell for 50, and he has a book value of 40. That's a loss of 17, but since they've already registered a loss of 27 they adjust upward by 10.
Just to add to the Lindelof/Maguire debate, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but Maguire with being a more assertive defender than Lindelof wouldn't it make him more preferable as an option for a higher defensive line?
I know the main counter argument will always be 'but what if the defense get's turned with balls over the top, he's go no recovery pace' but isn't the point of an aggressive high line to use assertive defenders to step in & cut of lines to play these balls through? Remember we've got Onana who should theoretically be situating himself higher up the pitch acting as a sweeper.
Whilst Maguire is not ideal, given a choice between the two, Lindelof's passive defensive nature would make him less of a desirable option for that kind of tactic.
I know the main counter argument will always be 'but what if the defense get's turned with balls over the top, he's go no recovery pace' but isn't the point of an aggressive high line to use assertive defenders to step in & cut of lines to play these balls through? Remember we've got Onana who should theoretically be situating himself higher up the pitch acting as a sweeper.
Whilst Maguire is not ideal, given a choice between the two, Lindelof's passive defensive nature would make him less of a desirable option for that kind of tactic.
The offer going in makes me hope something is also happening in terms of getting Lindelof out.
Well, yes (I work in finance. I am aware of this.
).If we are being strict about the bolded: you got some usage out of "it", which is the reason for ammortisation to begin with.
There is probably a middle ground to reach in the negotiation here to make sure both sides can walk away with a win.
Somewhere around 35-37 million plus add ons would be good
Somewhere around 35-37 million plus add ons would be good
I think 50m eur happens but it will need to be compromised on structure
Is it weird that i want this guy more than Yoro whom we already signed? I understand the latter is a generational talent but there’s just something about De Ligt that screams he’s going to be a proper United player
when are we getting this digga in?
Yeah not sure how much stock we can put on it but I’m sure there were links provided in this thread saying MDL only wants to join us and he’d be willing to take a lower salary (£220k pw being the figure I seem to recall). But yeah, I think the £35-£40m price already factors in a big discount for someone of his quality. IMO anyway.
I had heard the wages have been agreed already at £170k per week. He is taking quite a big salary drop to come here!
Salary. It's the same problem we'll have with selling Sancho and/or Rashford were a deal ever to happen.
I’m walking off.
De Ligt is a starter and yes, his salary is one reason why Bayern is entertaining offers.
"Wann kaufen wir den endlich, digga?!"
Ah read that wrong initially you sounded very excited.
@NotThatSoph From what I’ve seen, the fee was spread out in five instalments, and so they would have already paid two of them, leaving about €40 million.
United have offered around €37 million by the sounds of it. Given his injury record, I’d say just about recouping the money is about all Bayern can ask for. It’s good negotiating by United.
I would be surprised if he just agrees to drops £80k per week to play for a non champions league club. Maybe we’ll pay £170k this season with a promise of it going up by 25% next season if we qualify again, like the other player contracts.
I tried finding info on that, but couldn't. However, the payment plan is irrelevant, any outstanding payments is just debt.
If you sell your car for less than you bought it for, but more than you owe on your car loan, you haven't made a profit.
Wrong thread. Pokemon go talk is in a different one.
it’s just gone 2:15.
£35m will get it done.
This would give us some very good options at the back.
They want to get rid. That's how sales works.We're still lowballing Bayern for this one
One thing I don't understand about this transfer is who would be starter at RCB? I bet we promised Yoro that status, and De Ligt would want it as well.
I don’t mind the stance on the fee.
If the player has decided he wants to come here and Bayern have decided he is dispensable, a good compromise will come.
If the player has decided he wants to come here and Bayern have decided he is dispensable, a good compromise will come.
Although this would be a very good signing. I think we should be prioritising DM and CM first
Seems like it's only a matter of time and this will be done.
They really want Tah.
I don't know enough about Tah to know if he is upgrade on de ligt.
Also paying a bit extra to secure Yoro probably impacted the package for De Ligt...United are working on a budget too.
You just need to be patient, and you'll get him for 30m easily.
Bayern wants to freshen up their attack. They are in talks with Xavi Simons and Doué and Hoeness made it clear that no more players will come if nobody leaves, also for reason of squad size and wages.
There are no other serious conversations happening right now for any exits.
On top of that, we already bought Ito. Yes, he can play as left back as well, but it looks like Davies will now also run out his contract so it would mean potentially three players for that position as well.
It looks absolutely disastrous right now. We have now Kimmich, Boey, Stanisic, (Leimer) Upamecano, Dier, Kim, De Ligt, Ito, Davies, Guerreiro, Mazraoui for four positions.
That's 12 players and they still want to get Tah in! And most of these players won't be happy to sit on the bench.
Absolutely insane. Obviously as a Bayern fan I'll happily take the 40m, but our negotiation position is really not the best here.
Unwanted players on high wages. United knows about this issue. Bayern simply joined them in their strugles.We're still lowballing Bayern for this one
One thing I don't understand about this transfer is who would be starter at RCB? I bet we promised Yoro that status, and De Ligt would want it as well.
I’m not claiming they’ve made a profit on the original transfer fee. It’s a profit in the way that financial fair play is currently being regulated by UEFA. Because he’s been at Bayern for two years, his value in accounting terms is no longer €56 million.
Anyway, it’s a first offer, I doubt United are expecting it to be accepted, like with Braithwaite. There’s very few teams that can offer €40 million and his current wage package, as well as the worldwide exposure that we can. United finally seem to realised that they can utilise this if they have multiple targets and are prepared to walk away.
It's quite rightly a book-keeping profit of 10M given you have amortised 17 for the benefit of using the asset over two years and then someone comes along offering more than your remaining valuation of the asset.
Either way, I couldn't care less, he is 24 so I would happily pay a premium for 24-29 over 22-24 on a defender unless they are damaged goods. Anywhere in the range between our offer and their counter-offer seems like good value to me.
We should offer them Antony on loan with obligation to buy to make up the difference. Or they can have their pick of Maguire, Lindelof, Casemiro or Scott. Lots of options here Bayern. Uli knows there’s a great deal to be had here like with Dier last season !
I just met two Juventus fans friends of mine (35 yrs support each). Both said the same thing. De Ligt is half decent but he's ridiculously overrated. One followed him in the Bundesliga as well.
Don't shoot the messenger
Don't shoot the messenger
If it takes just another £5-6m to reach middle ground with Bayern then this deal probably will get tied up within the next few days. Might we see De Ligt and Ugarte in red this week? I think we might.
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