Remember the panic about how VAR would see us giving away penalties all the time because Smalling was combative and would hold players at corners? Happier times.
De Ligt | €45+5m agreement reached pending medical | Signed!
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Remember the panic about how VAR would see us giving away penalties all the time because Smalling was combative and would hold players at corners? Happier times.
Loan with an option to but for a reasonable fee sounds sensible and would be on board with that.
Buying him outright with his injury record would be madness.
Buying him outright with his injury record would be madness.
Agreed. and hopefully INEOS makes sure we are not bullied into paying high transfer fees.
It's a gamble I am not comfortable with
.If we sign this guy we've learned absolutely nothing. No more players with injury records.
Honestly out of pure principle we shouldn’t sign another Ten Hag player again. I’m good with passing on all of them, but especially the injury prone CB that’s struggled to assert himself at two huge clubs before us.
At this rate he'll become one of the more attainable targets.
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We actually dodged a bullet with this guy before. So we have to make up for that "mistake"
It's a gamble I am not comfortable with
De Jong is the only missing piece.
Go away.
It's a gamble I am not comfortable with
42m for de Ligt or 70m for Branthwaite? That makes me more comfortable to go for de Ligt.
I imagine de Ligt his wages would be double Branthwaite his wages though
I know the Brian Brobbey links are going to come back and when they do, I am going to scream
Classic United signing.
Big European club wants to shift some of their deadwood. Get United on the phone.
Big European club wants to shift some of their deadwood. Get United on the phone.
You can probably get both De Jong and de Ligt for 80m given their salaries in today's market.
There’s literally no point in signing him if he’s going to be injured for even 10 league games. Having Evans or lindeloff in for those 10 games will cost us the top 4 mark my word.
He’d be good if we get Branthwaite aswell. Don’t think I’d take him as an alternative. Our options would be decent then. But what’s he been like for Juve/bayern? Not really seen him play much for Juve/bayern
I hope we move away from such transfer under Ineos. Makes zero sense
It's a gamble I am not comfortable with
We don’t need any more injury prone CB’s, especially not for £42m.
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Injuries have apparently ravaged us last season to the point that we couldn't play the way ETH wanted to... so what do we do? Go for an injury prone player. 
Plettenberg is a clown.
As a loan with option it’d be a good deal but nothing else, unless it’s a cut price £20m or something
This will be a like for like replacement for varane. A defender who is decent when available but misses games through injury. We need to have a settled back line an injury prone cb is not the answer. The club ignored Mounts injury hit last chelsea season, spent money on him and he spent the season in the treatment room.
It's a gamble I am not comfortable with
Much better value than what we're being quoted for Branthwaite
The fact that he’s on the list because of ten Hag is a red flag for me. His fitness is also a big concern.
Folk are being too negative, he wouldn't be my preferred choice but he wouldn't be all doom and gloom either, has lots of experience at big clubs, would get to play under the manager that made one of the most promising prospects in Europe, and he's still on the right side of the age profile we're looking for.
It would be a risk but it could pay off massively.
It would be a risk but it could pay off massively.
It's a gamble I am not comfortable with
Monitoring to "started internal discussions".
I think it's the same thing to be honest.
It's a gamble I am not comfortable with
Hopefully the extent of the internal discussion is "we're not going for him, the recruitment staff will identify targets from now on".
Otherwise we clearly haven't learned a thing.
In a way it makes sense, buying from giant teams.
But then you look at how we've been fleeced by Real Madrid and Bayern numerous times before...
They all had Ed's mobile on speed dial.
He’s underwhelmed at Juve and Bayern so a move to the Premier League is unlikely to work out. He’s still living off what he did at Ajax and taking deadwood from Bayern is asking for trouble. I’m guessing he is on huge wages as well so 40m is a massively optimistic fee, we wouldn’t get half that if trying to sell him.
The 42m price tag suddenly makes him a good value buy, but I'd still have a few more alternatives before I'd consider de Ligt.
Not when you consider the wages he'll likely want and signing on fee.
I’d much prefer to see us being in a more athletic and sharp centre half.
He has been our best defender in the last 2 seasons.
Selling him and keeping Upamecano and Kim would be soooo stupid.
Selling him and keeping Upamecano and Kim would be soooo stupid.
Another player living off a reputation that he earned 5 years ago and hasn't done much since. Can we just go and buy players who have been performing consistently at the top level for the last 2-3 seasons?
Sign-on fees aren’t usually that significant if it’s not a free transfer, unless I’m mistaken?
He’s also on around £250k/week at Bayern, that’s a tolerable amount for a player like him
I’d happily take Kim from you for a reasonable price.
Kim looks far shakier than De Ligt
Kim and Upa have all the tools to be great defenders.
Good tackling, tall, fast, strong, good passing in general.
But both have too many brain farts and mistakes, especially in big games.
De Ligt is a "no bullshit defender" and very reliable.
He is a bit injury prone but other than that he is clearly our best defender.
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