Low metric. He's still leaving in shots that Dave would save.
De Gea - Fiorentina watch
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And Dave would still be making howlers on a regular basis like he did in his last couple of seasons if he remained here. Not to mention putting us under constant pressure with his inability to play out from the back. People need to stop talking like he’s still in his prime and not the past it player that the vast majority on here agreed had to be replaced. I loved him and I’m glad to see he’s back playing and doing well but it’s going to get tiring bumping this thread every time he makes a save or has a good game. He’s gone, let’s move on.
You guys who still think he’s great are bloody weird but credit to you for ignoring his last seasons, living eternally pre WC2018 is much better as a United fan than now.
Didn’t de Gea just save 2 penalties in one game?
Delighted to hear he's doing well. That's my guy!!
Dave saves 
Hilarious that he couldn't save a pen for years here but saves 2 in one game there. Maybe we are cursed
Hilarious that he couldn't save a pen for years here but saves 2 in one game there. Maybe we are cursed
Nice to see him doing well after the year off, hope it continues.
Regarding penalties, his record is quite strange. An average goalkeeper saves 17% of on-target penalties, whereas by the time he finished here his record was 13%. So worse than average, but only by about 3 extra goals from all the penalties he faced overall.
What made him weird is that his penalty saves were front-loaded to the start of his career, saving 10 of his first 35 on target. He then went on a ridiculous run of conceding penalties that dragged his record below average. And now this season his record is better for Fiorentina so far. So his overall record probably isn't that bad at this point.
the second goal today was from a flick-on from his goal kick, i think his second such 'pre-assist' or whatever it's called.
Good for him.
Yeah, I’m convinced that this club is cursed.
Happy for him though. Genuinely.
Happy for him though. Genuinely.
That’s how I feel too. Immensely happy for Dave. It just wasn’t working out for him with us anymore.
I don’t think we’re cursed. We just don’t have standards and a winning culture in the organisation. Huge lack of leadership too. And it starts at the top. I hope INEOS turns it around but must say that they’re going a bit slow for my tastes.
Routinely the players that got us in to the Top 4.
A wall in front of the goalposts but a wall cannot move.
A wall in front of the goalposts but a wall cannot move.
Honestly thought he would be done after being out for a year without any major injury. Great to see him do well.
Betting 10£ on Dave saving two penalties in the same game... you could quit your job and just sit back for the rest of your life.
As if Dave wasn't letting in howlers in his last 2/3 seasons. Revisionist history at its finest.
We could have just kept him and saved lots of money, while going for someone like Restes.
We couldn’t “just keep him”. We had to make the best paid goalkeeper in the whole of the Premier League (with goalkeeping stats of a slightly below average PL keeper) even more better paid with a fat new contract. The exact opposite to what a club which was already paying far too much for mediocrity needed to so.
Even ignoring the footballing reasons to move him on it needed to be done as part of a long overdue overhaul of these stupid contracts we kept offering not very good footballers.
If the year out meant that Fiorentina got him on a reasonable salary then good for them. Let’s not pretend we had the same option.
EDIT: Think he might actually have been best paid goalkeeper in Europe?
There were very credible stories that De Gea was willing to sign a contract that United had drawn up on dramatically reduced wages, only for United to pull the plug last minute.
So what you're saying here isn't entirely truthful.
The simple fact is United have moved on without De Gea and it's abundantly clear that the GK at United gets out under a lot of undue pressure leading to mistakes, De Gea was a brilliant keeper for United and would have continued to be one but Onana is proving his worth now after a very shaky start.
What you should also mention though is that those rumoured dramatically reduced wages still would have put him at 7th or 8th best-paid keeper on the planet, down from #1 with a vast margin, but still a very questionable amount of money for someone whose form curve had been pointing down for years.
Happy for him to be having a grand time in Italy though. Never disliked the man, just thought he wasn't good enough for United anymore.
I’m afraid I just don’t believe that. Footballers don’t sign their final contracts at their club on “dramatically reduced wages”. And exceptional claims like this require exceptional evidence.
Not just that, he was the highest paid Spanish footballer of all time right up until Laporte moved to Saudi Arabia.
You absolutely made that up. He was obviously on the decline and there were reports of him willing to accept lower wages.
It's reported to be in the region of 150k/week, which still made him one of the best paid GK in the world, but a dramatic reduction from his previous contract nonetheless (and I don't for one second believe Fiorentina is paying him more than that). I think we are paying Onana about the same or slightly less (Italian media reported 7m Euro net, but would assume it includes all possible bonuses), but we also paid a 45m pound transfer fee on top of that, was it the right call the summer before last given how tight our PSR/FFP situation was? I'd argue not, not when we dont have the personnel in place to implement a possession game with the keeper heavily involved. Whatever blunders De Gea made during his last season, he kept 18 clean sheets in the league and we had 2 very good cup runs (and the not so good one could hardly be blamed on him, when we blew a two goal lead at home).
Anyhow, that's all water under the bridge, we are where we are and it's good to see him enjoy his football.
No, I didn’t.
amazingAt his age, on his contract, and with his performances over the last few seasons it was absolutely the right decision to move DDG on. It was a position we very clearly needed to upgrade and the timing was right to bite the bullet.
Whether or not we made a good job of upgrading that position is a whole different discussion. Although Onana’s performances so far this season are encouraging. If last season turns out to be just debut season wobbles then the money might turn out to be well spent after all.
Big fan of Dave, but people seriously don't remember how his performances dropped in his last few seasons?
It was more tongue and cheek based on him saving 2 penalties in a game while he struggled to save that many with us in 10 years.
That said, I agree with your assessment.
I still can't believe he took a year out. The short life of a footballer, 33 years old, he took a year out!
I just can't get my head around that. Whatever floats his boat and all that.
I just can't get my head around that. Whatever floats his boat and all that.
To be fair, keepers do generally play for longer if they want to. DDG has been through over a decade in the glare of being first choice at United and was also an international for much of that time. He might well have decided that taking a year out to completely recharge and regain his appetite for the game would end up extending his career rather than maybe going straight to another club and being totally burnt out within two seasons.
Another cryptic tweet. Celebrating EtH getting sacked?
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Even Sancho is showing more maturity than that.
He was shit, his time was up and he was so handsomely rewarded here that he was able to take a year sabbatical from football.
He was shit, his time was up and he was so handsomely rewarded here that he was able to take a year sabbatical from football.
Fair play DDG, what a numpty.
Small time
Nah, I feel him. Sometimes you gotta revel in your enemies’ demise.
I like it when players show they’re human instead of super sanitised PR exercises
I like it when players show they’re human instead of super sanitised PR exercises
The level of hate for De Gea here is unreal.
He was messed around at the club, offered a contract then taken away. Can’t blame him for being annoyed.
De Gea is a red, he’s responding as a fan.
This
Also DDG did so much more for the club than ten Hag, so have some respect for an actual legend
Why does everyone assume the tweet is about ETH? Not that I really care either way - DDG is entitled to his opinion.