Best gk in Seria A by save percentage. Guy still lives in the past and thinks that saving shots is important thing.
De Gea - Fiorentina watch
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Shame he didn't think that when he was here. He was a liability here long before he actually left.
Isn't it about time you moved on ffs. He's gone 2 seasons now. It's time people give the guy a break. He gave his best years to United and was one of the best in the world for a number of years despite being in a terrible team for most of the time. Like every other player in history his time has came and has went.
We should be remembering him for the good he done for the club now, not hammering him for not being good enough in the end.
I honestly don't understand some of our 'supporters'
Glad to see it's going well for him there. Fair enough he was on the wane in his last few years with us but doesn't change the fact he was one of the few world-class players we had over the course of the last decade.
Plenty have given a lot less and received much more love from our fanbase.
Plenty have given a lot less and received much more love from our fanbase.
Happily Onana's save percentage in the PL last season was better than De Gea's save percentage in any of his last 5 PL seasons. So you were presumably thrilled we made such an upgrade in terms of saving shots.
Save percentage means nothing. Eye test for keepers.
You're going to continue to get people on here reminding other people that he really wasn't a very good goalkeeper in his last few years at United for exactly as long as those people keep bigging up his performances in an inferior league, for an inferior club. Which is, I think, fair.
Happy to see him doing well - he was outstanding for us over a number of seasons. It was right to move on though - he had regressed in terms of shot stopping and wasn’t good enough with his feet or sweeping. Very happy to see Onana doing well who is far more suited to how top teams play. I don’t really get how there’s any debate to be had here 
As long as the people saying he is doing well for Fiorentina isn't comparing it to his time here or Onana, I don't really think so. This thread is for discussing his performances in Italy, it would be nice to be able to do that without people jumping in with takes on his tenure here every third post.
Happy for Dave. Really thought for a second he was done in the sport, but he took a well-earned rest and is playing at a high level in a wonderful city. He wasn't good enough for us anymore and I'm glad we moved on, although the circumstances will always sting a little for me. Wish he could have left on better terms.
Exactly, it's like people wish him the worst and not want him to do well. He has been a great servant to this club and should have the respect from all our fans.
This doesn't mean I want him back. He's gone and it's time for everyone to move on whether they wanted him gone or not.
I hope he has a massive resurgence and gets himself back in the Spanish side. He probably won't but I hope he does well. I don't want him back at United regardless of his performances going forward. He's had his time here and his time was up.
Good luck to him and hope he gets into the team of the season
Fair play to him, i don't get some of the begrudgery here. The club was right to let him go but he was still a club great.
That must be the most shi!e trophy ever though, the state of it, even worse that those Pringles tubes the Premier League hand out.
Delighted for him, but weird trophy though.
I'm glad, too, he seems like a nice calm dude, outside of perhaps the occasional passive aggressive tweet (though people are allowed to act petty out of emotion every once in a while as well, being humans with emotions and all).
Perhaps he is one of the cases where a big break is actually the right thing to do. Whether it's because of it being an "inferior league" or not isn't really anything substantial. Nor is his fitting to ETH/Amorim/modern setups. It was clear he was playing below level, basically looking like he was digressing. So him now showing a return to at least some good form, is very nice to see.
Yes, it was time to go, whether because of the form, the need for a keeper more comfortable with the ball at his feet, or both (or other/more). He was great and rightly considered amongst the best in the world, and even in contention for the actual #1 #1.
Football skill and best in the world is always relative, you can be the best because everyone else is less, or because you are more. So, it's a matter of perspective and a matter of other people. Add in the fact that it's a team sport and a competitive one in every single game.
Face a lot of shots, you warm up more, and you get to show yourself and your skills more. But a shaky setup and unskilled wall in front of you can also break your confidence and sense of security. Could happen right away, or after some time when something inside you just gives up. A bad defence, or team in general, can make and break a goalkeeper's reputation.
Good to see someone doing well. Long may it continue. More good players are fun. And it helps that I followed him since breaking through at Atleti. I still remember feeling so sad when he left. Then again, it is one of the things that brought me closer to Man Utd, too.
Not to break the topic or my own reputation. But wherever (and if, I guess) Pogba pops up, whether he actually was a virus or actually a great guy deep down, I hope he and many others show a similar return. Though injury breaks are not the same as a sabattical, and his break is both longer as it kinda started a year before he left United. But it would be nice to at least show some of what people dreamed of when he broke through at Juventus, or when Ole took over at United.
It's the same for people wishing for Balotelli to show he was not merely the assist to Aguero and the game against Germany (12.5 years ago?! So that's why he's so old now - and remember Cassano?). Of course, De Gea's shown much more to warrant belief in a return to form, but what's belief without a little daydreaming?
De Gea shows that something being over doesn't mean everything is. Sometimes a reminder like this is good for the spirit, for the self, and for the appreciation of life's many surprises.
Welcome back David.
Another fantastic shot-stopping performance today and a clean sheet. So happy for Dave. Closed on Sundays!!
Nice triple save today. Happened at 1-0 up, they scored the second soon after.
The Arsenal double save is still better though...
Today may be the first time I've seen Onana pull off stuff like prime de Gea used to though. Didn't know he had it in him.
The Arsenal double save is still better though...
Today may be the first time I've seen Onana pull off stuff like prime de Gea used to though. Didn't know he had it in him.
That Palace double save was as close as I'd seen to DDG from Onana.
Still find it peculiar how no team was for him last season.
Unless it was by his own choice of course.
Unless it was by his own choice of course.
It was, he took a break according to media. He has been good, probarbly needed a rest
It's actually dull and boring.... Fair?
I was all for replacing him for years because he almost immediately regressed after his disappointing world cup in 2018, but I don't hold his poor performances post that tournament against him. For so many years after Fergie, he was our only world class player and pulled off so many incredible performances.
I'm happy he's back on form and is doing well there.
I'm happy he's back on form and is doing well there.
It's good he's enjoying an Indian summer
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...reborn-central-fiorentina-serie-a-renaissance
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...reborn-central-fiorentina-serie-a-renaissance
David de Gea is reborn and central to Fiorentina’s Serie A renaissance
Goalkeeper is at heart of team reviving and defying expectations thanks to seven straight Serie A winsI mean sure... but it seems a bit of a waste of energy does it not. It's not like anybody is looking at those performances for Fiorentina and posting that he's better than Onana and you should never have let him leave.
Everyone already knows he was a bit shit for the final few years at OT, it is rather odd to default to that response years after he's left.
There are those that seem to be able to move on from those last few years and show respect to a guy who was a long-time servant for the club and arguably the best GK in the world for a large portion of his time there, and then there are those that remain weirdly bitter about it.
Probably our best keeper ever. Some people should go and watch Peter's mistakes.
Embarrassing thread.
Embarrassing thread.
Van Der Sar was much better and consistent. Very few errors and suited the team perfectly.
He didn't make incredible, acrobatic saves because he didn't need to.
He didn't make incredible, acrobatic saves because he didn't need to.
Yeah no. Peter won us titles and VDS did as well. DDG was a fantastic keeper but let's all be realistic here.
De Gea is not our best ever keeper. This is over compensating.
Heh. Good one.
Although thankfully now that Onana has reached a frankly astonishing level of form those posts are less frequent.
They had opurtnity to play in better teams. Peter was so dodgy all the time, VDS was "stable" (we probably had one of the best CB pairing in club history plus Evra).DDG was left alone after Sir Alex left us. He was good servant and good GK. People need to get of his back.
Yeah no. Peter won us titles and VDS did as well. DDG was a fantastic keeper but let's all be realistic here.
I’m so happy for him.
easier to do that with world class defenders in front of you. de gea spent the majority of his prime years with absolute dogshit in front of him. we probably held on to him two years too long in the end, but even onana looks a different player this season without having a team shitting the bed in front of him constantly.
Yeah no. Peter won us titles and VDS did as well. DDG was a fantastic keeper but let's all be realistic here.
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To be honest we've been shitting the bed just as much, Onana has been better himself this season though.
Regarding De Gea, I do think think De Gea is maligned too much, like you said he maybe played 1-2 seasons too much. Can't comment to much on Schmeichel v De Gea since I didn't see a lot of Peter, only his later 2-3 years where he did have some pretty bad games, especially in his last season.
To be fair I think he could have been made to look better because of that, busy and a lot of TV saves might look better than VDS that had to keep his focus sharp sometimes for hours before someone got through.
yeah, they do say you concede more from the shots you never face.
He didn't need to, because he had the best defence ever in front of him!
I have a lot of respect for De Gea, one of the few shinning stars post-Fergie, his last few seasons notwithstanding. Remind me again, how many player of the year awards? No fuss keeper, genuine shot stopper. Treated shabbily imo, he would not have been on my list of players to bomb out.
Happy for the fella that he's doing so well.
GGMU!
Happy for the fella that he's doing so well.
GGMU!