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I’d say it absolutely is when we’re talking about the future of a player who is clearly past his peak. Keeping him based on how well he played years ago would just be sentimentality.Recency bias is such a wonderful thing.
We have to agree to disagree then. De Gea saved Utd many times this season and I doubt we would win the trophy or finish in the top four without his saves. But to move forward we now need a sweeper keeper comfortable with the ball at his feet who can play out from the back in order to advance ETH plans.
We have to agree to disagree then. De Gea saved Utd many times this season and I doubt we would win the trophy or finish in the top four without his saves. But to move forward we now need a sweeper keeper comfortable with the ball at his feet who can play out from the back in order to advance ETH plans.
Pretty sure we already knowIt's ridiculous at this stage he's probably holding up our entire transfer window, knowing how shoddily we operate.
Cant seriously pursue any signings because we dont know if we're going to need to spend £50m+ on Onana or Diogo Costa. And we wont know that until De Gea's future is resolved, which might take weeks or months. Obviously at a well run club it would have been resolved months ago when he refused to sign a fair extension that reflected his reduction in value.
Pretty sure we already know
His contract runs out in 2 weeks. He’s not our problem past the 30th June.It's ridiculous at this stage he's probably holding up our entire transfer window, knowing how shoddily we operate.
Cant seriously pursue any signings because we dont know if we're going to need to spend £50m+ on Onana or Diogo Costa. And we wont know that until De Gea's future is resolved, which might take weeks or months. Obviously at a well run club it would have been resolved months ago when he refused to sign a fair extension that reflected his reduction in value.
And the club know this by now either way whether we do or notI think the only way the club has certainty right now is in the case that he's definitely leaving.
Crazy that we didn't start identifying and approaching potential replacements a year ago when DDG entered the final year of his contract. It was only going to end one way.It's ridiculous at this stage he's probably holding up our entire transfer window, knowing how shoddily we operate.
Cant seriously pursue any signings because we dont know if we're going to need to spend £50m+ on Onana or Diogo Costa. And we wont know that until De Gea's future is resolved, which might take weeks or months. Obviously at a well run club it would have been resolved months ago when he refused to sign a fair extension that reflected his reduction in value.
Rangnick also didn't see a issue with De Gea and mentioned that in a press conference.Onana agreed to move to Inter while we were getting a sporting director out of his contract to be our interim manager. I highly doubt anyone at United was thinking about the goalkeeper situation and remember we also had Henderson sitting on the bench at a 100k/week contract in that period.
An interim manager's opinion probably shouldn't be given much weight when planning a squad for the long term though.Rangnick also didn't see a issue with De Gea and mentioned that in a press conference.
If he’s bolting, thanks for the memories…
No it shouldn't hence a new keeper will be bought like i've been saying for sometime now, contrary to what has been reported.An interim manager's opinion probably shouldn't be given much weight when planning a squad for the long term though.
Yeah I think you're right, it feels inevitable at this pointNo it shouldn't hence a new keeper will be bought like i've been saying for sometime now, contrary to what has been reported.
I said a while ago that he was in trouble due to the arrival of ten Hag who wants to initiate attacks from the back. And that's a new concept in the EPL but the concept itself isn't new or modern, but the concept has taken a firm grip in the EPL now with more and more teams adopting the positional play principles which first appeared under Rinus Michels in the early 70s.Yeah I think you're right, it feels inevitable at this point
Do you think any other keeper would just concede every shot we face?
I don't have a problem with moving players on whoever they are if they are past it. I also don't want to see Eriksen in the first XI next season either, great as a bench option though.I’d say it absolutely is when we’re talking about the future of a player who is clearly past his peak. Keeping him based on how well he played years ago would just be sentimentality.
And with De Gea, his decline isn’t even that recent. It was already clear when his contract was last renewed, when he was given the ridiculously inflated wage he’s currently on (hopefully it will be reduced to zero pounds a week soon enough).
Can it be done with respect but quicker? Some of us are waiting to sign a GK. Just do it the Micky Goldmill way - call him a washed up bum, give his locker to some else and put his stuff on a peg.I don't have a problem with moving players on whoever they are if they are past it. I also don't want to see Eriksen in the first XI next season either, great as a bench option though.
I'm just referring to the disrespect that De Gea is getting as if he's some washed up bum. The guy's been here a decade, saved United so many times and received many personal accolades during his time here even as recent as this season. Move the player on but do it with respect.
I don't have a problem with moving players on whoever they are if they are past it. I also don't want to see Eriksen in the first XI next season either, great as a bench option though.
I'm just referring to the disrespect that De Gea is getting as if he's some washed up bum. The guy's been here a decade, saved United so many times and received many personal accolades during his time here even as recent as this season. Move the player on but do it with respect.
He is under contract, so he has no choice ultimately. Plus, with De Gea gone, he'd be the number one.I thought Henderson wasn't an option because he doesn't want to be here?
I don't have a problem with moving players on whoever they are if they are past it. I also don't want to see Eriksen in the first XI next season either, great as a bench option though.
I'm just referring to the disrespect that De Gea is getting as if he's some washed up bum. The guy's been here a decade, saved United so many times and received many personal accolades during his time here even as recent as this season. Move the player on but do it with respect.
If you make Hendo the number one, the first thing he’ll want is a new contract comparable to DDG at least. Is that what United want? As his transfer to Forest is all but done, clearly this is not what United want.He is under contract, so he has no choice ultimately. Plus, with De Gea gone, he'd be the number one.
Huh? Why would he expect that?If you make Hendo the number one, the first thing he’ll want is a new contract comparable to DDG at least. Is that what United want? As his transfer to Forest is all but done, clearly this is not what United want.
If you make Hendo the number one, the first thing he’ll want is a new contract comparable to DDG at least. Is that what United want? As his transfer to Forest is all but done, clearly this is not what United want.
No it doesn't work like that. The moment Rashford and Martial became first choice, they didn't sign a contract with Sanchez wages.
It makes financial sense for both parties. Giving him a better contract is costs you less money then losing a potential £25m transfer fee next season.Huh? Why would he expect that?
He'd be #1 for a year. If he does well enough in that year that he is our long-term #1 then he would certainly ask for a higher wage (but nowhere near what De Gea is on), but if we then go out and sign someone else to be #1 then Henderson would demand a transfer. At which point he'd have been in the shop window at the top level for 12 months, and (unless he was downright bad for us) he'd probably be in a better position to get a higher placed club and higher wage than what he's likely getting offered with Forest.
As you said though, it's highly unlikely that's the path the club is going to take.
It makes financial sense for both parties. Giving him a better contract is costs you less money then losing a potential £25m transfer fee next season.
What are you on about Henderson has (2+1) years on his contract .It makes financial sense for both parties. Giving him a better contract is costs you less money then losing a potential £25m transfer fee next season.
He‘s been on a decline so we need to replace him if we are serious about competing.
Henderson is already paid higher than over half the keepers in the league, and has a couple years left on his contract. It's not like he's on some tiny contract.It makes financial sense for both parties. Giving him a better contract is costs you less money then losing a potential £25m transfer fee next season.
If we did lose DDG could we just put Henderson as number 1 and get a replacement next summer when the shitshow of a takeover is sorted? Or did Henderson burn too many bridges with the interview last summer.
My own opinion is that he’ll sign. It kind of shows what a feck up we’ve done with his salary that no one bar the Saudi’s are interestedIf DDG is getting offered 2nd choice wages, I think he will go to Saudi Arabia.
My own opinion is that he’ll sign. It kind of shows what a feck up we’ve done with his salary that no one bar the Saudi’s are interested
