He shouldn't be playing again for us. Makes no sense to keep him.
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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Exactly this. If he isn’t good enough to be no.1 because he’s useless with his feet then he’s not good enough to be no.2 either, especially on an extortionate wage.
I don’t see why not? Using all available metrics the vast majority of keepers in the PL are better than DDG at every single element of being a goalkeeper. So I don’t see why it’s so unlikely the runaway winners of the league might have number 2 who is better than him at the weakest elements of DDG’s game (which was all Ortega was needed to do today, be decent with the ball at his feet)
I think most of the complaint is that PSxG is also bad for the 2nd shot. Do you know how PSxG is computed and if you can do a PSxG - xG for strikers?
Who are you to decide what is constructive or not?
Not long back. Hope to god I haven’t got to see him in a United shirt again. Utterly fecking hopeless, every time we’ve got a big game you know he’ll feck up. And that’s without even mentioning his kicking which probably started more attacks than De Bruyne did.
City signed Ortega on a free from a club I’m 80% certain are made up and he’s twice the keeper De Gea is. Anyone who thinks he can’t be improved upon relatively cheaply is completely insane.
City signed Ortega on a free from a club I’m 80% certain are made up and he’s twice the keeper De Gea is. Anyone who thinks he can’t be improved upon relatively cheaply is completely insane.
Why do you find it silly that city's second choice can be better? Brighton's second choice is better and Leno (albeit he is loaned out), who would be second choice in Arsenal, is also better. In fact DDG is only better than Leicester 's first choice.
There's no aspect of keeping now where he's good enough to be Utd keeper.
Shot stopping, his passing, organising the defence, set pieces, consistency, temperament.
He's a goalkeeper who is terrible on the ball, terrible on set pieces, prone to mistakes and consistently crumbles in the biggest games.
Shot stopping, his passing, organising the defence, set pieces, consistency, temperament.
He's a goalkeeper who is terrible on the ball, terrible on set pieces, prone to mistakes and consistently crumbles in the biggest games.
Utter hyperbolic nonsense. You don’t win the golden glove being one of the worst keepers in the league. He got 17 clean sheets, closest to him were Alison, Pope and Ramsdale on 14. Henderson got 6, and the man some tip to replace him, Raya, got 12. League winning Ederson kept 11 clean sheets.
It doesn't matter if we sign Kane, Mount, more midfielders, etc.
If De Gea is still our #1 GK, our ceiling as a team is massively limited. He provides nothing.
Even ignoring his obvious flaws, he is so rooted to the line at times, it causes mayhem itself on the center backs.
His distribution is probably the worst in the league or thereabouts. We can't keep the ball well if our GK is going to misplace half his passes when we give it to him. And the successful passes he does hit are often 3-5 yard sideways passes to the center-backs. He is a giant issue.
If De Gea is still our #1 GK, our ceiling as a team is massively limited. He provides nothing.
Even ignoring his obvious flaws, he is so rooted to the line at times, it causes mayhem itself on the center backs.
His distribution is probably the worst in the league or thereabouts. We can't keep the ball well if our GK is going to misplace half his passes when we give it to him. And the successful passes he does hit are often 3-5 yard sideways passes to the center-backs. He is a giant issue.
More rubbish. Crumbles in the biggest games apart from when he saves a penalty in the last game of the season to secure CL footy and 3rd place.
Who cares about the golden glove award?
Honestly, how do you people keep defending De Gea? There's numerous statistics proclaiming he's an average GK, and your rebuttal is him winning the Golden Glove award. The Golden Glove award is an extension of the defensive unit and not entirely down to the GK.
I was talking about metrics that relate to the performance of goalkeepers as individuals. Clean sheets reflect the quality of the defence as a whole, not the goalkeeper as an individual. And this isn’t “nonsense”. It’s a fact. Whether you like it or not.
People who defend him are honestly embarrassing.
I seriously question if you guys are wumming. There's no way people are actually thinking he's not a problem. There's statistical facts about how average he is and people still push back on it.
I seriously question if you guys are wumming. There's no way people are actually thinking he's not a problem. There's statistical facts about how average he is and people still push back on it.
It's pointless fighting this fight.
There's a crowd on here for some reason who refuse to criticize him. And their retorts are baseless and not reflective of De Gea's quality at all.
Have I stumbled across some weird David de Haters cult here or something?! Good lord
Exactly. Rooney’s volley vs Newcastle was unstoppable- this was a volley on target without much power and pretty central that any semi-competent alert stopper should’ve saved. DDG was caught cold and unaware- which was the same for the second goal as he went down in instalments.
For our longest serving player he played like absolute novice. Ironically he was also responsible for conceding two easy goals on his debut can City. He is a complete bag of nerves.
With a decent modern keeper over the past few years we would’ve won at least one Europa League trophy and possibly another cup. He has cost us far too often and people are all too ready to come up with excuses for him.
He’s a dinosaur keeper not suited to the modern game at all and one of the reasons why we cannot progress as a team.
Have I stumbled across some weird David de Haters cult here or something?! Good lord
Typical
People post stats or allude to stats to signify his decline and you think it's a cult of haters.
Deplorable posting quality.
It’s not hyperbolic at all, it’s literally rooted in stats. We won the golden glove for him because our first choice back line and Casemiro was excellent against the majority of opponents.
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Typical big game De Gea performance today. But dipshits would have you believe he’s a United Legend
Can't stand to watch him play for United he just oozes weakness.
I've been of the opinion for ages that we'd be better off with nearly any other person in goal than him. Heaton, Henderson, whoever
The golden glove brigade over here
Saying he offers nothing is being generous.
Not one of the biggest gamesMore rubbish. Crumbles in the biggest games apart from when he saves a penalty in the last game of the season to secure CL footy and 3rd place.
Call to arms postHave I stumbled across some weird David de Haters cult here or something?! Good lord
How was the last game of the season a big game? The Chelsea result secured CL, it was just the difference between 3rd and 4th.More rubbish. Crumbles in the biggest games apart from when he saves a penalty in the last game of the season to secure CL footy and 3rd place.
I’ve posted all I need to post in this thread. Year after year since 2018 he has costed us in big games. Time to go.
So Ederson's 11 clean sheets reflects on the quality of Citeh's defense as a whole, the defense anchored by Stones, Diaz and Rodri, perhaps the top defenders in the league in their positions. You'd actually rate ours, L'Arse's, Newcastle's, Pool's and Brighton's defense above Citeh's???
A GK's clean sheet count isn't the barometer for how good one's defense is.
More rubbish. Crumbles in the biggest games apart from when he saves a penalty in the last game of the season to secure CL footy and 3rd place.
What are you fecking on about ?
Are you trying to claim last week against Fulham was one of the biggest games?
We'd already secured top 4. It wasn't an important game at all.
Calling out statistical weak links doesn’t make you a hater btw
Do the de Gea defenders on here (assuming they're genuine and not wind-up merchants) seriously believe United will get close to City and challenge for league titles and champions leagues again while de Gea remains our first choice keeper?
Can I ask, what is it in particular (and be very specific) about de Gea's performances over the past number of seasons that make him such an indispensable member of the team for them?
Can I ask, what is it in particular (and be very specific) about de Gea's performances over the past number of seasons that make him such an indispensable member of the team for them?
The personification of the apathy and low standards at the club. What's the point of watching United when this joker is in goal.
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I genuinely don't think they (likely a very small minority) have any solid reasons. It's either sentimentality, living in the past, or minimising the issue because they feel there are other pressing matters.
Him being offered a new deal is the most mystifying thing during ETH reign in my view.
Loved the majority of the time De Gea has spent at the club. Not even close to being in the De Gea is shite camp, but he's the last of an era where shot stopping was enough. Football has changed unfortunately and I think it's time we let dave go.
His shot stopping isn't even elite anymore and for me the second today was soft.
United legend no doubt and anyone who disparages him have a short memory, but it's time to part ways. He should sign off on a high with the golden glove.
All the best dave.
His shot stopping isn't even elite anymore and for me the second today was soft.
United legend no doubt and anyone who disparages him have a short memory, but it's time to part ways. He should sign off on a high with the golden glove.
All the best dave.
It's time to let him go, in the past things like his shite passing and claiming crosses were forgiven because he saved us so many times with his great shot stopping but we can't even rely on that now
Has come full circle, he reminds me of the De Gea of his first season here.
That's exactly it from my perspective. I think we have more important positions, like striker, or in the midfield that are far more difficult to carry through a season than a less than desirable keeper. If we had unlimited funds I would say go all in for that Diogo Costa or whoever, or if there was an option like how Milan signed Maignan for 15 million or so, I would say go for that too. Unfortunately we don't have unlimited funds so in my opinion its better to prioritize getting at least one striker in as well as a midfielder, and hopefully a backup defender for Varane. Once we have those then next year go all in for the best keeper you can, because we can at least carry De Gea over the line for a year.
Exactly. We can’t keep possession and we can’t build from the back. We aren’t going to progress from Ole counter attacking football with Dave in goal.
Add to the fact he can’t catch crosses, is stuck to his goal line and barely makes decent saves anymore, makes replacing him paramount.
If he starts in goal next season we’ll struggle to make top 4. He’s only going to get worse.
Arsenal, Liverpool, City all became title contender when they improved their keepers.
If ETH doesn’t see that then I fear for him next season.
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