I’ve seen the same shit happen to other CBs this season, with a even bigger example being what he did to Eriksen against Brentford. The guy has no feel for when to pass the ball and to whom. He can’t see an obvious passing trap to what it is.
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I am absolutely certain ETH is fully aware of De Gea's weaknesses. Because you would need to be extremely stupid not to be, which ETH isn't. These aren't difficult to spot flaws.
The question has always been how much money we can spend this summer to fix our various weaknesses and whether he judges other weaknesses to be higher priority. If funds are limited enough and he has enough other priorities, De Gea gets kept despite the problems ETH will be aware of.
And all the while ETH will (correctly) keep being as positive as possible about him.
Absolutely just a player who should've been moved years ago.
Just dire:
Pretty well any keeper needs good defenders in front of him, same is true of, say, City and Liverpool. I still think he's had many great performances, inevitably as United supporters we focus on the memorably bad ones like tonight and forget it happens to other keepers. I'd agree with the 2018 mark, though, as the point where we could say there are other candidates who could do better. Any player reaches the point where it's time to move on.
Like I said, awful keeper that isn't even a good shot stopper anymore but top reds will tell you how great DAVE SAVES is
We're going to feck it up offering him a new deal. Hopefully this performance didn't came too late.
Move on from him, if there's no budget to get a top keeper then give Henderson next season and then buy a new keeper.
Giving him a new deal would just doom us to have him for the next 4 years and he will only get worse and worse as his reflexes slow down.
Move on from him, if there's no budget to get a top keeper then give Henderson next season and then buy a new keeper.
Giving him a new deal would just doom us to have him for the next 4 years and he will only get worse and worse as his reflexes slow down.
Feck.
It's all a bit schizophrenic with him isn't it.
From David de God to David de go feck yourself.
Hope we part with him in a good way, he's been here for a very very long time.
It's all a bit schizophrenic with him isn't it.
From David de God to David de go feck yourself.
Hope we part with him in a good way, he's been here for a very very long time.
To think Pope went to Newcastle for £10m last season. De Gea is easily replaceable at this point, there's no great outlay needed.
That defence would look a lot less shaky on Sunday if Butland started.
That defence would look a lot less shaky on Sunday if Butland started.
We've conceded goals from both Eriksen and Fred being caught out in almost identical situations this season already. Fairly certain there was a similar fourth one as well, but the player had more time so I wouldn't blame De Gea as much. We've got away with a couple of others where the opposition haven't punished us.
I'm also not sure what first time pass Maguire is supposed to make. He can't pass it to AWB because one Sevilla player is blocking it (which is what happens - he attempts a first time pass which is blocked and they score). He can't pass it back to De Gea because of another opposition player (in theory De Gea probably should be moving to the side to create a passing line the instant he passes to Maguire), and there's no other options. The only two things Maguire could have done is turned on the ball himself between the two players coming from his sides (still very dangerous with a risk of losing the ball in a terrible position) or just smashed the ball out of play somewhere.
The reason that Maguire has three players surrounding him is because of the pass. If the pass had been played properly he would have only really had to deal with one of them - the one coming off AWB's side of the field. Would still have been a somewhat dangerous pass, but (like the fourth one I mentioned above) the blame would have moved more towards Maguire if he still messed it up.
Even at his best, he is the equivalent of RvN in goal. He will do his job but people forget that doing the job for one position is really less important than contributing to the whole. The overall level of a team is not the sum of everyone doing their job, it's how everyone's game contribute to the attack and defence of a team. De Gea hasn't even been considered one of the top 3 GKs for Spain for years now. His style invites pressure, it doesn't make defenders secure, he has very little presence. Making 20 great saves a season has no value if you're contributing to the team conceding 100 chances or if you're not helping the team keep the ball because at the end of the season, no one cares about individual performances.
I just remembered one of his cock up this season in which he conceded a really soft goal whilst leaning with one hand on the post. 
Can't remember who it was against but I got a good laugh out of that one.
Can't remember who it was against but I got a good laugh out of that one.Seriously. Pep sacked off a then highly respected Hart, nuking his career, and got a very makeshift Bravo in. It was 100% the right thing to do.
With De Gea now, the bar to beat is so incredibly low.
Career ending performance. Unforgivable
He somehow got lobbed on his line for the second.
It's not been mentioned enough but his reaction after Maguire's pass is horrendous as well. He just stands still and does nothing. Doesn't move his feet to close the space, dive at the feet or commit to an angle.
I'm fully aware he had a low chance to save it but he made sure it was an impossible chance to save when he just let him take a shot without doing anything. He's so scared of taking a step forward, just like the corner goal. He's not even been bashed or man handled that badly before, why does he have this PTSD-like reluctance to take a step forward for anything. So infuriating.
I'm fully aware he had a low chance to save it but he made sure it was an impossible chance to save when he just let him take a shot without doing anything. He's so scared of taking a step forward, just like the corner goal. He's not even been bashed or man handled that badly before, why does he have this PTSD-like reluctance to take a step forward for anything. So infuriating.
We've been linked with enough goalkeepers to suggest Ten Hag doesn't see de Gea as the longterm solution. He refused to confirm as much in the post game presser.
This is a classic case of rewarding a player based on previous merit. It’s clear he’s no longer winning us points but instead costing us them. A great servant of the club no doubt but it’s time to move on, we cannot keep persisting with him when trying to play the type of football ETH wants, it’s like chalk and cheese.
What did he say?
A journalist asked did Ten Hag view de Gea as the longterm goalkeeper after that performance. Ten Hag just responded that he is the current golden glove in the league but did not respond to the actual question.
But that's the perplexing part, he has been shit or average for the last 5 seasons. That's almost as many good seasons as he had at the club.
Let's hope he sees sense and moves the guy on because I fully believe it will cost Ten Hag his job if he gives him a new contract.
He seems so meek.
Never see him having a go at his defence. After Maguire’s shocker he just stood staring, nothing happened.
I’d have fecking dropkicked Maguire in the sternum and given him an earful if that was me, but instead we get the usual ‘oh well, it happened again’ attitude.
Never see him having a go at his defence. After Maguire’s shocker he just stood staring, nothing happened.
I’d have fecking dropkicked Maguire in the sternum and given him an earful if that was me, but instead we get the usual ‘oh well, it happened again’ attitude.
DDG'S two best options for the
pass are Maguire and I think that's Sabitzer.
The problem was not the choice of pass, but the quality of the pass.
The clubs rancid from the top down, this sort of incompetence won’t change until we get new ownership. That’s why we all need to pray someone stumps up the £6b these parasites are looking for to finally feck off or this clubs finished.
I wouldn't be so sure having watched him in the championship a few seasons ago
He's had several but always manages to stick around. His Man Utd career seems as unkillable as Jason in the Friday the 13th movies.
There were previous rumours going around that they never have got on that well and that Maguire was always wanting Henderson to start at United over De Gea. Disregarding the goal there were 2 or 3 other instances of serious miscommunication between them in the first half of the match. It's hard not to be fed up with both of them at this point.
Raya has to be the target. He won't cost much and would be a monster upgrade. We don't have to get a big name keeper but it has to be addressed this summer
This. Nothing will change until them f@@@ing Glazers are gone. Please somebody buy them twats out. I f@@@ung hate then
Interestingly enough, the one time in his four years here that Maguire looked consistently good enough to be starting for us (the second half of 20/21) coincided with Henderson being in goal for most of it. Not all of it so it's not necessarily the cause, but I do find it interesting. Our entire defensive shape looked more structured than at any other time in the surrounding few seasons.
Depends what we want i guess, if we want to play football in todays game he cant be number one.
If you mean 70/30 De Gea if anything.
The whole job of a keeper is to scan the pitch and build a foundation for an attack when in possession.
He not only gives it to him in such a slow fashion but right when 3 defenders converge.
What's the other option that would keep him as number 1? Because he isn't even excelling in stopping shots
fecking amazing how a professional GK is so bad at weeping... The 3rd goal, Sevilla player didn't even try to push pressure on DDG.
I'm fine with him staying BUT as a backup, with no more than 120k/w and that'd be alot still for goal keeper.
I'm fine with him staying BUT as a backup, with no more than 120k/w and that'd be alot still for goal keeper.
For me there is no option but narrative about shot stopping regardless how true or not it is, might keep him a spot.
Not shocked, not surprised! This is just his level and frankly I can’t believe he still has supporters at this club. He’s a legend and I will always appreciate the service he has given us, but this is like the final Rooney years, hes an absolute liability and if we truly want to progress quickly as a team it’s as important that we get as new keeper as it is a new striker. Top priority and I hope he’s proved that to Ten Hag tonight. If he stays Ten Hag might as well give in his resignation because he’s wasting everyone’s time.
You thought wrong that. That’s 90% on De Gea. You don’t give to it any player when he’s surrounded by three men, it’s a complete hospital pass.
We can't play out from the back with him. He's awful at it. Has been all season.
If he's given a new deal at 200k a week then it's clear nobody at the club has a clue what they are doing, including the manager.
Let him leave on a free. Been a great servant but his time is up now.
If he's given a new deal at 200k a week then it's clear nobody at the club has a clue what they are doing, including the manager.
Let him leave on a free. Been a great servant but his time is up now.
Other players would have dealt with it. And/or not told the keeper to pass it to them in that position in the first place.
Regardless, there's enough blame to level in all directions that it doesn't particularly matter. If you want to say it was mostly on De Gea, go nuts.
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