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2022-23 Performances


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6.2 Season Average Rating
Appearances
58
Clean sheets
25
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
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Didn't watch but seen the first and third goals. Think maguire was at fault for the first, the third was a horror, not sure what he was trying.

Still can't see how we will be able to afford to replace him when we have no strikers and need a midfielder.
 
Every footballer is saying that De Gea should not pass it to Maguire there. The pass was not on. He was surrounded by three players and all of them closed him down.

There was nothing wrong with passing it to him, we see these passes being made every week. It was the pace and quality of the pass that killed him, if that pass is zipped into his feet he can play it away first time or turn out quickly.

It was slow and bobbly, because of that he got closed down and could do feck all by the time it got to him other than try and sling it over to AWB.
 
Overreactions here as usual. Obviously at fault for the third goal, but to be honest better that happened in this game than in any later games this season as this was already lost.

First goal, sure you could blame de Gea for passing Maguire but he asked for the ball and should be able to turn into space there. Much more on Maguire than on de Gea - especially if one think we should be a team playing out from the back. The second goal was unfortunate, could have saved it but hardly a mistake. Not a good game from him, but hardly the disaster that some people here are making out.
The second part is certainly on Maguire, but stating that doesn't mean De Gea didn't feck up horrendously in the first instance, so I wouldn't say it's on one more than the other. Nor is playing out from the back a defence, because playing out from the back still relies on the sense of the backline to pick an option. It's a playing philosophy not dogma, no team plays every single pass short or always to the centre back so I don't think you can just say "well we play out from the back, so there you go, deal with it."

Surely as a keeper you know your man. You train with him all week, you know he's not a first teamer or brimming with confidence. You know where all your defenders want the ball, to what side, you know their overall skill on the ball so goalkeepers are always aware of what the options are and it's something they should be actively thinking about. If they're not then what else are they thinking about in terms of on the ball play?

Then there's the in game factors. You can see a bouncing stadium in front of you, you know it is the early stages and the press is set and the opposition have energy, you can see the picture of where the Sevilla players are right in front of your face regardless of who is asking for the ball. Would DeGea also jump in front of a bus if somebody ushered him to?

All this stuff should be intuitive for a keeper at this level. It's ultimately a split second decision but that's goalkeeping, most of your job relies on a quick decision or reaction and the consequences are big.

I don't think there is any mitigation for DeGea. He takes full culpability for that bad choice. Then Maguire has to take full culpability for the fact that once that pass is played, a player at this level should be able to deal with it better even if he shouldn't have been put in that situation. Again it's about reacting to the situation and dealing with it, which he didn't.
 
Overreactions here as usual. Obviously at fault for the third goal, but to be honest better that happened in this game than in any later games this season as this was already lost.

First goal, sure you could blame de Gea for passing Maguire but he asked for the ball and should be able to turn into space there. Much more on Maguire than on de Gea - especially if one think we should be a team playing out from the back. The second goal was unfortunate, could have saved it but hardly a mistake. Not a good game from him, but hardly the disaster that some people here are making out.

Are you serious? First goal, pass was never on in a million years. Second goal he got his footing all bloody wrong. Third goal was rubbing coarse salt into a deep, open stab wound. A disasterclass from an alleged world class goalkeeper.
 
Paul Scholes summed it up really. Great goalkeeper but not a good footballer.
Shocking performance tonight.

He isn't a great GK, he was a great GK untill 2017-18 season. Since then he is average and below that.
 
Up there with the worst goalkeeping performances I can remember, just shocking. I love the guy but we need to move on if we're ever gonna progress as a team. Just let his contract expire or get rid.
 
We have already won the Premier League with de Gea in goal. If we can do it next year? Probably not, but that won't be because of de Gea.
When we won the league with De Gea in net, I seem to remember us having to score 4 each game because De Gea conceded 3. He was shit that season.
 
Between him panicking and Maguire panicking they are a disaster when played together.
 
His new contract is all but signed and sealed says the press. Will be announced any time.

This club hasn't learned a single thing.
 
He's been a problem since 2018/19 but we had bigger issues to deal with.

Playing Maguire in front of him doesn't help, and he's another problem and needs shipping out ASAP, but a goalkeeper with any authority doesn't make the mistakes he did tonight.

A good shot stopper and will probably pull out a few brilliant saves on Sunday, but lacks everything else now. Needs to leave.
 
Are you serious? First goal, pass was never on in a million years. Second goal he got his footing all bloody wrong. Third goal was rubbing coarse salt into a deep, open stab wound. A disasterclass from an alleged world class goalkeeper.

He shouldn’t have passed, but Maguire still should have been able to deal with it. Another comedy of errors at the back for us.
 
By far my favorite player in the post-Fergie era. But there comes a time when enough is enough. He should not be signed even in massively reduced wages (unless as a backup).
 
Disagree. Two players near and no outlet. Sure, Maguire could all of a sudden develop great turning skills that we've never seen from him before, but really, he shouldn't get that pass. That ball should be booted up field. If AWB is a bit further back and a first touch pass outlet, then it's a good play.

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Look at the amount of space the cnut had, you're telling me a professional footballer shouldn't be able to get the ball in there and turn and use it?

He had fecking oceans of room to take it and turn into midfield.

The problem was he got given a shit pass that meant by the time the little trickly bobbly ball made it to him he had been closed down and in true Harry fashion he panicked.
 
Any bets on when the tweet of him saying sorry and we move forward gets posted? If its not been posted already
 
When we won the league with De Gea in net, I seem to remember us having to score 4 each game because De Gea conceded 3. He was shit that season.

He wasn't shit but yeah he had some bad games and had to sit on the bench for a while because of that.
 
He isn't a great GK, he was a great GK untill 2017-18 season. Since then he is average and below that.

To be honest I agree with you, I guess I’d say he’s a great shot stopper as opposed to goal keeper. Either way, it was abysmal scenes tonight and as much as I respect his service for the club, it probably is time to call it a day.
 
I do wonder if DDG fans genuinely believe he’s still good enough after watching all his deficiencies every season for a few years now
 
Feels like every time we go on a good run he's there to pull us back down to earth with one of his shockers.
 
2018/2019 he pretty much cost us top 4 by making one catastrophic error a game for the last 2 months of the season.

2019/2020 has a nightmare in the semi final at Wembley vs Chelsea, at fault for two goals knocking us out

2020/2021 fails to save about 11 penalties from Villareal, seemed to go the wrong way every time, then misses the penalty to lose the shootout vs Villareal

2021/2022 Whole team too shit to even get close to any success

2022/2023 Total nightmare in the quarter final of EL, at fault for all 3 goals knocking us out.

He's an average goalkeeper with the terrible trait of saving his worst for the biggest games.
 
Look at the amount of space the cnut had, you're telling me a professional footballer shouldn't be able to get the ball in there and turn and use it?

He had fecking oceans of room to take it and turn into midfield.

The problem was he got given a shit pass that meant by the time the little trickly bobbly ball made it to him he had been closed down and in true Harry fashion he panicked.

Pictures don't tell the whole truth. Those players are both coming towards Maguire. Note how the picture is when De Gea has the ball. By the time it gets to Maguire he tries to pass with his first touch and he is surrounded. It's not like Harry took 2 touches and lost the ball. He was covered when the ball got to him. De Gea should see this and not give it to him. Harry should still do better, but never should get that pass.
 
He's tragic. He's been statistically a shit goalkeeper for a long time now. Even looking at just his shot stopping, as we all know he is useless at every other aspect of goalkeeping, his underlying stats for shot stopping have been below average for 5 fecking years.

He will likely stay ... But there are teams in the relegation zone with better goalkeepers.
 
We won it by conceding nearly 50 goals that season. De Gea will never be part of a major league or European winning team ever again.

You never know. He might be a backup keeper somewhere and win the league by sitting on the bench where he belongs.
 
When we won the league with De Gea in net, I seem to remember us having to score 4 each game because De Gea conceded 3. He was shit that season.
This isn't even remotely true. We were shaky defensively during the first half of the season, but from the turn of the year until the title was won we conceded like seven goals in 14 games. The first half of the season he also split games a bit with Lindegaard and from when he was firmly our number one (mid december) he conceded 16 i in 21, which is hardly shambolic.
 
Look at the amount of space the cnut had, you're telling me a professional footballer shouldn't be able to get the ball in there and turn and use it?

He had fecking oceans of room to take it and turn into midfield.

The problem was he got given a shit pass that meant by the time the little trickly bobbly ball made it to him he had been closed down and in true Harry fashion he panicked.

The second picture shows he didn't receive the ball until he was closed down. So, does that not back up the notion that the pass should never have been made?
 
Like Maguire and Martial, this should be his last european game for us. Keep him as a backup. Sell Henderson for something, and buy a new no 1. When was the last time he had a great game in an important match? He is the main reason we failed against Sevilla in 2020, agains Villareal in 2021 and against Sevilla again. There is no point really to keep a gkwho cant pass and cant defend a corner. The gk with the highest wages in the world, makes few good saves every now and then and people forgive him.

There is also a reason why he failed hard in the spanish national team and in big games for us; weak mentality. He is regressing since 2018 and he just doesnt care.
 
Just like how he was targeted (and still is) at the start of his career at united with corner kicks, there will only be MORE pressure from the remaining games when it comes to passing from the back.
 
Another excellent knockout game.

Shit for each goal conceded. Please get rid in the summer. I'm begging this club.
 
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